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So if I’m using a Samsung TV as a monitor and working on sensitive or classified material the damn thing is taking screenshots and uploading them? Yikes

ReactiveJelly 6y ago
If the user doesn't control the software, the software controls the user. Don't give them network access.
- pixl97 6y ago
  10 years from now "All smart TVs come with a 5G network adapter built in to keep in touch with the ad networks"
  - qes 6y ago
    "How to desolder power from your built in 5G network adapter" I give it 20 years before we have to root our TV's to disable tracking while keeping it functional - and that might be optimistic - the industry could get there in under 10 if they tried hard.
asldihgiyug 6y ago
If you're using it as a monitor, why would you still connect it to the internet?
- stallmanite 6y ago
  Hypothetically because I’d be using it as a monitor part time and using the built in shit the other part of the time? In actuality I do as you suggest and don’t ever connect the thing to the internet. Operation Weeping Angel was enough to convince me of that. https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/weeping-angel/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/weeping-angel/
halter73 6y ago
Not exactly. They upload fingerprint to see if it matches known content. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_content_recognition https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_content_recognitio...
m463 6y ago
It's funny, but I bought a dell monitor and I downloaded the manuals. One of them was an unexpected white paper, which contained this statement: Statement of Volatility – Dell U3219Q Monitor The purpose of this document is to certify that the Dell U3219Q monitor will not save, retain, or reproduce a signal to any internal or external component after power has been removed and reapplied to the unit. The Dell U3219Q monitor contains both volatile and non-volatile (NV) memory ICs. Volatile memory(s) lose their data immediately upon removal of power. Non-volatile memory ICs continue to retain their data even after the power has been removed. However, no input video data is written into these memory ICs during operation. List below contains volatile and non volatile memory ICs used in the Dell U3219Q monitor." Then it had a table for each storage chip within the monitor with its purpose and characteristics including: - system eeprom - hdmi edid eeprom - system flash rom - usb hub eeprom - pd controller flash rom

ReactiveJelly 6y ago

If the user doesn't control the software, the software controls the user. Don't give them network access.

pixl97 6y ago
10 years from now "All smart TVs come with a 5G network adapter built in to keep in touch with the ad networks"
- qes 6y ago
  "How to desolder power from your built in 5G network adapter" I give it 20 years before we have to root our TV's to disable tracking while keeping it functional - and that might be optimistic - the industry could get there in under 10 if they tried hard.

asldihgiyug 6y ago

If you're using it as a monitor, why would you still connect it to the internet?

stallmanite 6y ago
Hypothetically because I’d be using it as a monitor part time and using the built in shit the other part of the time? In actuality I do as you suggest and don’t ever connect the thing to the internet. Operation Weeping Angel was enough to convince me of that. https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/weeping-angel/ https://krebsonsecurity.com/tag/weeping-angel/

halter73 6y ago

Not exactly. They upload fingerprint to see if it matches known content. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_content_recognition https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_content_recognitio...

m463 6y ago

It's funny, but I bought a dell monitor and I downloaded the manuals. One of them was an unexpected white paper, which contained this statement: Statement of Volatility – Dell U3219Q Monitor The purpose of this document is to certify that the Dell U3219Q monitor will not save, retain, or reproduce a signal to any internal or external component after power has been removed and reapplied to the unit. The Dell U3219Q monitor contains both volatile and non-volatile (NV) memory ICs. Volatile memory(s) lose their data immediately upon removal of power. Non-volatile memory ICs continue to retain their data even after the power has been removed. However, no input video data is written into these memory ICs during operation. List below contains volatile and non volatile memory ICs used in the Dell U3219Q monitor." Then it had a table for each storage chip within the monitor with its purpose and characteristics including: - system eeprom - hdmi edid eeprom - system flash rom - usb hub eeprom - pd controller flash rom