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TL;DR - 01.10.2020 (today): publication of the ROI project’s landing page. It's the first time I publish something online I coded from scratch - I profoundly l

TL;DR - 01.10.2020 (today): publication of the ROI project’s landing page. It's the first time I publish something online I coded from scratch - I profoundly love this feeling : this is so satisfying ! - I started coding on July 2020 and this landing page is made only in vanilla JS, CSS and HTML boosted with Gulp sauces : result of my summer self-taught frameworkless learning. - ROI is my 6th project and will mix all my experiences from the last twelve years. All of them were launched under the "early-shipping" rules. - This time, I aim to become the CTO for learning purpose. - I will keep my idea under "not clearly stated" status until its released : even if it goes against the dynamics of indies, MVP, lean-startup… I have specific reasons which I explain here : https://community.indiestack.co/t/root-rise-of-indies-version-1-577e-10ms/434 https://community.indiestack.co/t/root-rise-of-indies-versio... Nothing new will be launch beyond this Landing Page until β-version, around March 2021. I am looking forward to read your feed-back - be rough, I haven't had any "dev-hazing" yet - about : UX/UI Copywrite (English is not my mother tongue). Responsive General appearance Thanks !

quickthrower2 6y ago
Feels like something’s missing. You had me hooked with the copy - it’s really intriguing but then it sort of just goes to a opt in form with no explaination about what you are offering? I’m confused and a bit disappointed.
- Johan_Bavaud 6y ago
  It saddens me to know that you feel that way, sincerely. I would have liked to show more, but I'm absolutely not "technically" ready. By posting ROI, I wanted to get some criticism about the technical and aesthetics side first since it's my "hello world". I am not really looking for subscribers (otherwise I have to upgrade my account). That was more just to see if everything goes fine with a bit more traffic than me refreshing the page :D
  - quickthrower2 6y ago
    Don’t want you to feel sad! All you need is to describe what it is you are doing. Even at a high level. I’m building a XYZ. The page is otherwise 99% there.
tobr 6y ago
> I will keep my idea under "not clearly stated" status until its released : even if it goes against the dynamics of indies, MVP, lean-startup… I have specific reasons which I explain here : https://community.indiestack.co/t/root-rise-of-indies-version-1-577e-10ms/434 https://community.indiestack.co/t/root-rise-of-indies-versio... This link just takes me to a login form. Not sure if that’s intended/expected.
- Johan_Bavaud 6y ago
  Yes it is ! I'm part of this super active Indie hacker community since august and I am totally convincing by how its run. However, you have to sign-up and pays a small contribution to discuss with us. It's worth it only if you are an indie hacker/side-project builder/... I guess. And behind the paywall, you will find the complete explaination of the project Rise-of-Indies. (As it's more "intimate" and that I don't want to expose every details of my thought on HN, It's a great choice)
  - tobr 6y ago
    > (As it's more "intimate" and that I don't want to expose every details of my thought on HN, It's a great choice) Well, do you or do you not want to engage with the HN community? Paywalls and signup pages are not allowed as Show HN’s.
    - Johan_Bavaud 6y ago
      Yes I want, but this is not the purpose here. If you want to know more about it, there is a place for that which is the link I shared. It's an add-on, not a trick. What I was asking to the HN community is more the technical side of my page. I know there are lot of dev here and that could be a great way to improve my skills.

quickthrower2 6y ago

Feels like something’s missing. You had me hooked with the copy - it’s really intriguing but then it sort of just goes to a opt in form with no explaination about what you are offering? I’m confused and a bit disappointed.

Johan_Bavaud 6y ago
It saddens me to know that you feel that way, sincerely. I would have liked to show more, but I'm absolutely not "technically" ready. By posting ROI, I wanted to get some criticism about the technical and aesthetics side first since it's my "hello world". I am not really looking for subscribers (otherwise I have to upgrade my account). That was more just to see if everything goes fine with a bit more traffic than me refreshing the page :D
- quickthrower2 6y ago
  Don’t want you to feel sad! All you need is to describe what it is you are doing. Even at a high level. I’m building a XYZ. The page is otherwise 99% there.

tobr 6y ago

> I will keep my idea under "not clearly stated" status until its released : even if it goes against the dynamics of indies, MVP, lean-startup… I have specific reasons which I explain here : https://community.indiestack.co/t/root-rise-of-indies-version-1-577e-10ms/434 https://community.indiestack.co/t/root-rise-of-indies-versio... This link just takes me to a login form. Not sure if that’s intended/expected.

Johan_Bavaud 6y ago
Yes it is ! I'm part of this super active Indie hacker community since august and I am totally convincing by how its run. However, you have to sign-up and pays a small contribution to discuss with us. It's worth it only if you are an indie hacker/side-project builder/... I guess. And behind the paywall, you will find the complete explaination of the project Rise-of-Indies. (As it's more "intimate" and that I don't want to expose every details of my thought on HN, It's a great choice)
- tobr 6y ago
  > (As it's more "intimate" and that I don't want to expose every details of my thought on HN, It's a great choice) Well, do you or do you not want to engage with the HN community? Paywalls and signup pages are not allowed as Show HN’s.
  - Johan_Bavaud 6y ago
    Yes I want, but this is not the purpose here. If you want to know more about it, there is a place for that which is the link I shared. It's an add-on, not a trick. What I was asking to the HN community is more the technical side of my page. I know there are lot of dev here and that could be a great way to improve my skills.