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> It would be great if we stop adding features now... I wish there was a Postgres branch that took previous version and then just applied optimizations and bugf

> It would be great if we stop adding features now... I wish there was a Postgres branch that took previous version and then just applied optimizations and bugfixes. No more. To be fair, quoting from the article: > There are no big new features in Postgres 13, but there are a lot of small but important incremental improvements. Let's take a look. But also, in general, yes there are pieces of software that do this - most recently Moment.js[1]. There was some discussion earlier this week[2]. [1] https://momentjs.com/docs/#/-project-status/ https://momentjs.com/docs/#/-project-status/ [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24477941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24477941

chrisweekly 6y ago
It's unfortunate that performance is so rarely considered to be a feature.
- marcosdumay 6y ago
  Postgres usually adds plenty of performance from one version to another. Not much on .0 versions, those are more feature packed, but all the other time.
  - koolba 6y ago
    “.0” versions are the only versions that would have a major performance change. Anything else would be a fix version.
  - petergeoghegan 6y ago
    Actually, Postgres does not add any performance features to point releases at all. Point releases are only for bug fixes. You may be thinking of MySQL. Occasionally, there are cases that could be argued to be exceptions to the general rule. But that's a hard argument to make -- everything committed to a back branch is officially a bug fix. Things like optimizer regression fixes are "performance enhancements" in a certain sense, but are nevertheless justified as bug fixes.
- anarazel 6y ago
  There's plenty performance work going on in postgres. Most major releases had significant improvements in some aspect of that.
- chrisweekly 6y ago
  THIS WAS A GENERIC COMMENT NOT AIMED AT POSTGRES!! ffs. lots of downvotes, no oppty to update orig comment for clarity... sigh. postgres is awesome. my point was, given companies seem to be all about "features", if they considered perf as a feature -- which it is (imho the most important one) -- it could yield benefits for everyone.
  - retox 6y ago
    The moment.js author just said that no more changes would be added, so that's one recent example. People were praising the decision in the HN thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24477941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24477941
  - dang 6y ago
    I've reopened your comment upthread for editing. Please don't post off topic complaints like this though. The guidelines ask you not to go on about downvotes and also not to use allcaps for emphasis. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: I've re-closed the comment but if you want to add to it, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com.

chrisweekly 6y ago

It's unfortunate that performance is so rarely considered to be a feature.

marcosdumay 6y ago
Postgres usually adds plenty of performance from one version to another. Not much on .0 versions, those are more feature packed, but all the other time.
- koolba 6y ago
  “.0” versions are the only versions that would have a major performance change. Anything else would be a fix version.
- petergeoghegan 6y ago
  Actually, Postgres does not add any performance features to point releases at all. Point releases are only for bug fixes. You may be thinking of MySQL. Occasionally, there are cases that could be argued to be exceptions to the general rule. But that's a hard argument to make -- everything committed to a back branch is officially a bug fix. Things like optimizer regression fixes are "performance enhancements" in a certain sense, but are nevertheless justified as bug fixes.
anarazel 6y ago
There's plenty performance work going on in postgres. Most major releases had significant improvements in some aspect of that.
chrisweekly 6y ago
THIS WAS A GENERIC COMMENT NOT AIMED AT POSTGRES!! ffs. lots of downvotes, no oppty to update orig comment for clarity... sigh. postgres is awesome. my point was, given companies seem to be all about "features", if they considered perf as a feature -- which it is (imho the most important one) -- it could yield benefits for everyone.
- retox 6y ago
  The moment.js author just said that no more changes would be added, so that's one recent example. People were praising the decision in the HN thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24477941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24477941
- dang 6y ago
  I've reopened your comment upthread for editing. Please don't post off topic complaints like this though. The guidelines ask you not to go on about downvotes and also not to use allcaps for emphasis. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: I've re-closed the comment but if you want to add to it, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com.