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Which will encourage courts to render these "agreements" invalid. I think there was a study that showed that it would take the average user 40 man-years to read
by ifmpx 6y ago
Which will encourage courts to render these "agreements" invalid. I think there was a study that showed that it would take the average user 40 man-years to read and understand each software or serive legal agreements they "agree" to.
Software legal agreements are a farce, and it's only a matter of time before governments step in and regulate the shit out of it.
- amluto 6y agoAs I understand it, it’s crystal clear under EU law that these I Agree popups violate the GDPR.
- virgilp 6y agoYeah, I really don't get it. Google seems to be daring EU to apply a 5% fine.... why wouldn't EU do that?
- mywittyname 6y agoThey wouldn't be able to enforce it.
- throwaway33339 6y ago5% is pocket money. By the time the get sued, lose, appeal, lose the appeal, etc. they'll have made that money many times over. At this scale fines are just the cost of doing business. The only way to act as an actual deterrent is to put executives behind bars or dismantle the company.
- Nextgrid 6y agoNote that Google's consent form is already invalid and completely useless from the GDPR's point of view. As per the GDPR, consent should be freely given (you are not penalized for declining) and it should be as easy to decline as it is to agree (something as simple as pre-ticked checkboxes is already in breach). The ICO's (UK privacy regulator) website provides more details: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/lawful-basis-for-processing/consent/ https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protectio... The current Google consent prompt fails the second test. There is an easy "I agree" button but no "I decline". The "See more" button leads you to some more filler text and turns the button to "Other options". Clicking that gives you more filler text and some links to Google/YouTube history and ad settings, but setting those doesn't actually dismiss the modal and you are still supposed to click "I agree". Furthermore the Google personalized ad opt-out says the setting can take hours to apply, which would also not comply with the GDPR as ad tracking should be opt-in to begin with.
- paulryanrogers 6y agoWhat is at stake if the EU agrees this is a violation?
- rightbyte 6y agoE.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp._v._Commission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corp._v._Commission