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Dude has an anti-China boner. Mind you, I agree that their gov spying on us through Tiktok is a problem. He'd still rather focus on an app. 150,000 dead Amer

Dude has an anti-China boner. Mind you, I agree that their gov spying on us through Tiktok is a problem. He'd still rather focus on an app. 150,000 dead Americans seems to have slipped his mind.

YinglingLight 6y ago
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ffggvv 6y ago
yes it’s impossible to walk and chew gum at the same time. the president can’t worry about national security during a pandemic. even when people agree with him they have to find some avenue of attack
ericd 6y ago
From other stuff I've read, it sounds like the objection is not just spying, but also that the owners can inject whatever content they want into any user's feed using the interest clustering they've doubtless built to feed the propaganda most effective for that person, and the potential that if they're at the mercy of the Chinese govt, that the government could control that injection. Unlike Facebook, etc, there's no expectation that what you're seeing is coming from people in your social circle.
- longtimegoogler 6y ago
  That still isn't a reason to ban the app until there is evidence that such a thing has been done. In other words, punishing the crime before it is committed seems unjust.
  - ericd 6y ago
    Potential for harm isn’t a reason to consider banning something? We don’t always wait for the harm to happen first.
ejanus 6y ago
You are missing the point...and not pretty much informed
- threatofrain 6y ago
  Why don’t you show us what your clarity looks like, instead of merely hinting of the secret knowledge you have?
dang 6y ago
Please don't post generic political comments to HN. They lead to generic political discussion, which is repetitive (and therefore tedious), and usually turns into a nasty flamewar. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20generic%20discussion&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Dude has an anti-China boner. Mind you, I agree that their gov spying on us through Tiktok is a problem. He'd still rather focus on an app. 150,000 dead Americans seems to have slipped his mind.

YinglingLight 6y ago

Don't mind me. Pasting this due to the nature of this thread. tiananmen square迫害侵略掠奪破壞拷問屠殺活摘器官誘拐買賣人口遊進走私毒品賣淫春畫賭博六合彩天安門天安门法輪功李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

ffggvv 6y ago

yes it’s impossible to walk and chew gum at the same time. the president can’t worry about national security during a pandemic. even when people agree with him they have to find some avenue of attack

ericd 6y ago

From other stuff I've read, it sounds like the objection is not just spying, but also that the owners can inject whatever content they want into any user's feed using the interest clustering they've doubtless built to feed the propaganda most effective for that person, and the potential that if they're at the mercy of the Chinese govt, that the government could control that injection. Unlike Facebook, etc, there's no expectation that what you're seeing is coming from people in your social circle.

longtimegoogler 6y ago
That still isn't a reason to ban the app until there is evidence that such a thing has been done. In other words, punishing the crime before it is committed seems unjust.
- ericd 6y ago
  Potential for harm isn’t a reason to consider banning something? We don’t always wait for the harm to happen first.

ejanus 6y ago

You are missing the point...and not pretty much informed

threatofrain 6y ago
Why don’t you show us what your clarity looks like, instead of merely hinting of the secret knowledge you have?

dang 6y ago

Please don't post generic political comments to HN. They lead to generic political discussion, which is repetitive (and therefore tedious), and usually turns into a nasty flamewar. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20generic%20discussion&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html