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Difference is you can't "hold in" a pre-term birth b/c you're afraid of covid.

by uuilly 6y ago

nostromo 6y ago
Half of premature babies are delivered via c-section and many more are induced, usually because there is some risk to the mother or baby at holding the baby to term.
- DangitBobby 6y ago
  I find it doubtful that the people researching this phenomenon didn't think of that, don't you?
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- wahern 6y ago
  Such as inducement for preeclampsia, which in prior years accounted for ~15% of premature births in the U.S.: https://www.marchofdimes.org/complications/preeclampsia.aspx https://www.marchofdimes.org/complications/preeclampsia.aspx Like with coronary and cardiovascular diseases, I imagine long-term impacts won't be known for several years.
- mensetmanusman 6y ago
  c-sections are money makers, we left our hospital in Boston when we found they had a 50% c-section rate, ha
  - bananaface 6y ago
    That's straight-up cyberpunk horror territory. What the actual fuck
    - alistairSH 6y ago
      Could many of those C-sections be at the request of the mother? I know quite a few professional women who have scheduled C-sections (or just induced births) so they can "manage" the delivery better. Seems crazy to me, but not my body, child, or career.
      - bananaface 6y ago
        That also seems horrifying & cyperpunk to me but I doubt a significant chunk of women choose it, let alone independently.
        newen 6y ago
        In India, it's something of a fashion and women choose it because its convenient, etc.
        bananaface 6y ago
        India is cheating
      - mensetmanusman 6y ago
        Based on time-of-day data, it seems the scheduling is more likely to convenience the doctors.
      - HelloMcFly 6y ago
        Unless there's a medical need it's not ethical to give a c-section as it creates greater risk of complication (including and especially death), more long-term effects, worse effects on the child, and just so happens to make the hospital more money. Of course if there is a medical need then they should be done, but it's not like tonsilectomy.
    - boomboomsubban 6y ago
      It could be a ward that specializes in handling risky pregnancies, so a desired result.
  - ballenf 6y ago
    The pressure to schedule an induction up to a week or so early is also very strong. The sales pitch is "we can schedule at a convenient time for you and ensure that you'll have a bed". Implying that you're being super irresponsible by letting nature decide when the baby's ready. It all just feels like the OB/GYN is worried about their schedule more than the baby's or mother's well-being. And c-sections are definitely subtly encouraged even if there's not a real need.
OJFord 6y ago
But you can 'hold in' cancer?
- williamdclt 6y ago
  It's not about cancer deaths, it's cancer diagnoses. Don't go to the hospital/doctor => no diagnosis
  - OJFord 6y ago
    Oh if that's what the commentor I replied to meant, I misunderstood completely. :thumbs-up:
mam2 6y ago
I think the surprising truth is that women may, inconsciously or to some extent, influence the time of birth. If you look at the distribution of birth per calendar days there are unusual spikes and distributions on special days such as valentines day and i'm not sure this could explain by people deciding to have specifically more sex 9 month before considering the "supposed" randomness of the day of birth aound the 9 month mark.. http://thedailyviz.com/2016/09/17/how-common-is-your-birthday-dailyviz/ http://thedailyviz.com/2016/09/17/how-common-is-your-birthda...
- purple-again 6y ago
  I could be wrong but I thought that was explained by c section scheduling. Doctors love nothing more than a tight schedule and birth is anything but that.
  - ballenf 6y ago
    Had a child due around Christmas in our family, and I think both you and parent are both correct. The mother really didn't want to miss Christmas and the doctor offered to schedule an early induction. They didn't offer to induce on Christmas Day, eve or the day after. The baby came a couple days after Christmas.
  - mam2 6y ago
    That would be kinda sad though

Difference is you can't "hold in" a pre-term birth b/c you're afraid of covid.

by uuilly 6y ago

Difference is you can't "hold in" a pre-term birth b/c you're afraid of covid.

Half of premature babies are delivered via c-section and many more are induced, usually because there is some risk to the mother or baby at holding the baby to term.

DangitBobby 6y ago
I find it doubtful that the people researching this phenomenon didn't think of that, don't you?
- deleted 6y ago
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- deleted 6y ago
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wahern 6y ago
Such as inducement for preeclampsia, which in prior years accounted for ~15% of premature births in the U.S.: https://www.marchofdimes.org/complications/preeclampsia.aspx https://www.marchofdimes.org/complications/preeclampsia.aspx Like with coronary and cardiovascular diseases, I imagine long-term impacts won't be known for several years.
mensetmanusman 6y ago
c-sections are money makers, we left our hospital in Boston when we found they had a 50% c-section rate, ha
- bananaface 6y ago
  That's straight-up cyberpunk horror territory. What the actual fuck
  - alistairSH 6y ago
    Could many of those C-sections be at the request of the mother? I know quite a few professional women who have scheduled C-sections (or just induced births) so they can "manage" the delivery better. Seems crazy to me, but not my body, child, or career.
    - bananaface 6y ago
      That also seems horrifying & cyperpunk to me but I doubt a significant chunk of women choose it, let alone independently.
      - newen 6y ago
        In India, it's something of a fashion and women choose it because its convenient, etc.
        bananaface 6y ago
        India is cheating
    - mensetmanusman 6y ago
      Based on time-of-day data, it seems the scheduling is more likely to convenience the doctors.
    - HelloMcFly 6y ago
      Unless there's a medical need it's not ethical to give a c-section as it creates greater risk of complication (including and especially death), more long-term effects, worse effects on the child, and just so happens to make the hospital more money. Of course if there is a medical need then they should be done, but it's not like tonsilectomy.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    It could be a ward that specializes in handling risky pregnancies, so a desired result.
- ballenf 6y ago
  The pressure to schedule an induction up to a week or so early is also very strong. The sales pitch is "we can schedule at a convenient time for you and ensure that you'll have a bed". Implying that you're being super irresponsible by letting nature decide when the baby's ready. It all just feels like the OB/GYN is worried about their schedule more than the baby's or mother's well-being. And c-sections are definitely subtly encouraged even if there's not a real need.

OJFord 6y ago

But you can 'hold in' cancer?

williamdclt 6y ago
It's not about cancer deaths, it's cancer diagnoses. Don't go to the hospital/doctor => no diagnosis
- OJFord 6y ago
  Oh if that's what the commentor I replied to meant, I misunderstood completely. :thumbs-up:

mam2 6y ago

I think the surprising truth is that women may, inconsciously or to some extent, influence the time of birth. If you look at the distribution of birth per calendar days there are unusual spikes and distributions on special days such as valentines day and i'm not sure this could explain by people deciding to have specifically more sex 9 month before considering the "supposed" randomness of the day of birth aound the 9 month mark.. http://thedailyviz.com/2016/09/17/how-common-is-your-birthday-dailyviz/ http://thedailyviz.com/2016/09/17/how-common-is-your-birthda...

purple-again 6y ago
I could be wrong but I thought that was explained by c section scheduling. Doctors love nothing more than a tight schedule and birth is anything but that.
- ballenf 6y ago
  Had a child due around Christmas in our family, and I think both you and parent are both correct. The mother really didn't want to miss Christmas and the doctor offered to schedule an early induction. They didn't offer to induce on Christmas Day, eve or the day after. The baby came a couple days after Christmas.
- mam2 6y ago
  That would be kinda sad though