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Mathematicians who think infinity is real should be treated with the same disdain as Neptune worshiping astrologers. The internet makes it easy for pedantic lo

Mathematicians who think infinity is real should be treated with the same disdain as Neptune worshiping astrologers. The internet makes it easy for pedantic losers to have a loud opinion. Hell I have even run in to pedantic losers who have the time to create multiple new and fake accounts and use old sock puppets to create the illusion of an audience because these friendless, loveless losers literally have no one to talk to IRL. > I keep running into people like this all the time. Psychological attacks, amazing! I'm guessing you are one of those deeply insecure symbol twiddlers. Let me guess, as kid you were crap at everything, especially sports except symbol twiddling so you latched onto those praises your teacher gave you and as an adult that is the only source of your self-esteem. And you can't handle it when someone on the internet thinks abstract mathematicians are full of shit.

gspr 6y ago
> Mathematicians who think infinity is real should be treated with the same disdain as Neptune worshiping astrologers. Mathematicians will not say anything like "infinity is real" or "infinity is not real". We are careful creatures, and will ask what you mean by "infinity". In this subthread we've been discussing infinite series. What part of the definition of those do you have a problem with? (Prediction: you'll never answer this, but instead go on ranting with no ability to focus on the topic at hand. I can definitely see why math is hard for you, you have a severe problem with focus). > The internet makes it easy for pedantic losers to have a loud opinion. I can see that. > Hell I have even run in to pedantic losers who have the time to create multiple new and fake accounts and use old sock puppets to create the illusion of an audience because these friendless, loveless losers literally have no one to talk to IRL. That's pretty sad. It's also very sad that this is the conclusion you jump to when someone speaks out against your insane ravings in an entirely logical and coherent way. > Psychological attacks, amazing! It's a bit entertaining that you can go from what you wrote above (and what you write below) straight into accusing me of this. > I'm guessing you are one of those deeply insecure symbol twiddlers. I am indeed quite insecure. I'm working on managing that. If you by "symbol twiddler" mean mathematician, then yes – and quite proud of it too. You'll do well to get back on track to the topic at hand though, seeing as you're currently coming off a bit like the people one sometimes see yelling incoherent nonsense on subway trains. > Let me guess, as kid you were crap at everything, especially sports except symbol twiddling so you latched onto those praises your teacher gave you and as an adult that is the only source of your self-esteem. Not at all. While I was quite mediocre at sports (though far from crap), I did really well in most things. I was not a favorite of the teachers, because I had (and probably still have) a bit of problem with authority. Are you done derailing the discussion now? I'll remind you: we're discussing the usefulness of mathematics, not my childhood or athletic abilities. > And you can't handle it when someone on the internet thinks abstract mathematicians are full of shit. I can handle it just fine, primarily because what raving lunatics believe has no influence on the extreme actual power and usefulness of mathematics. The reason I care to have the discussion is to set the record straight for third parties' sake.
- foobar_ 6y ago
  I would not reply if not for the delicious irony the georoge cantor was a schizophrenic lunatic who died poor and homeless. I too am concerned about mentally ill lunatics who have taken over mathematics who think gibberish and number puzzles need to be the concern of others, hell even funded by others. Unlike you I welcome the death of mathematicians and mathematics as we know it, I am all ears on how we can get rid of mathematics from obsessive compulsive lunatics, pea counters, hypocrites, schizophrenics and symmetry worshipers. > we're discussing the usefulness of mathematics Internet narcissists do like to imagine insults. No we are not. The post was about the value of notation and my thread was about the refutation of notation as useless and programming as a better alternative to it.
  - gspr 6y ago
    > I would not reply if not for the delicious irony the georoge cantor was a schizophrenic lunatic who died poor and homeless. Do the mental problems and drug addiction of a brilliant musician detract from his or her music? Do you yell "madman" at a painting by van Gogh? > Unlike you I welcome the death of mathematicians and mathematics as we know it Even you, with the most pedestrian definition of what is "useful", must surely acknowledge that a lot of mathematics is immensely useful. Yet you wish for its death. You have nothing to replace it with. You sound like Trump and his non-existent healthcare "plans". You're hell-bent on destroying something simply because you cannot grasp it. > No we are not. The post was about the value of notation and my thread was about the refutation of notation as useless and programming as a better alternative to it. Yes, and in a sub-thread of the post you've made it clear that you doubt the usefulness of mathematics. So now we are having a sub-discussion about that. Yet you've still to contribute anything of value. On several occasions have I and others invited you to comment on very concrete mathematical constructions. You evade those invitations. I can only surmise that that is because you do not understand the questions you are being asked, or are unable to provide an alternative to the current standard mathematics. That standard mathematics is done in a somewhat formal language built around the very notation that this thread is about.
    - foobar_ 6y ago

gspr 6y ago

> Mathematicians who think infinity is real should be treated with the same disdain as Neptune worshiping astrologers. Mathematicians will not say anything like "infinity is real" or "infinity is not real". We are careful creatures, and will ask what you mean by "infinity". In this subthread we've been discussing infinite series. What part of the definition of those do you have a problem with? (Prediction: you'll never answer this, but instead go on ranting with no ability to focus on the topic at hand. I can definitely see why math is hard for you, you have a severe problem with focus). > The internet makes it easy for pedantic losers to have a loud opinion. I can see that. > Hell I have even run in to pedantic losers who have the time to create multiple new and fake accounts and use old sock puppets to create the illusion of an audience because these friendless, loveless losers literally have no one to talk to IRL. That's pretty sad. It's also very sad that this is the conclusion you jump to when someone speaks out against your insane ravings in an entirely logical and coherent way. > Psychological attacks, amazing! It's a bit entertaining that you can go from what you wrote above (and what you write below) straight into accusing me of this. > I'm guessing you are one of those deeply insecure symbol twiddlers. I am indeed quite insecure. I'm working on managing that. If you by "symbol twiddler" mean mathematician, then yes – and quite proud of it too. You'll do well to get back on track to the topic at hand though, seeing as you're currently coming off a bit like the people one sometimes see yelling incoherent nonsense on subway trains. > Let me guess, as kid you were crap at everything, especially sports except symbol twiddling so you latched onto those praises your teacher gave you and as an adult that is the only source of your self-esteem. Not at all. While I was quite mediocre at sports (though far from crap), I did really well in most things. I was not a favorite of the teachers, because I had (and probably still have) a bit of problem with authority. Are you done derailing the discussion now? I'll remind you: we're discussing the usefulness of mathematics, not my childhood or athletic abilities. > And you can't handle it when someone on the internet thinks abstract mathematicians are full of shit. I can handle it just fine, primarily because what raving lunatics believe has no influence on the extreme actual power and usefulness of mathematics. The reason I care to have the discussion is to set the record straight for third parties' sake.

foobar_ 6y ago
I would not reply if not for the delicious irony the georoge cantor was a schizophrenic lunatic who died poor and homeless. I too am concerned about mentally ill lunatics who have taken over mathematics who think gibberish and number puzzles need to be the concern of others, hell even funded by others. Unlike you I welcome the death of mathematicians and mathematics as we know it, I am all ears on how we can get rid of mathematics from obsessive compulsive lunatics, pea counters, hypocrites, schizophrenics and symmetry worshipers. > we're discussing the usefulness of mathematics Internet narcissists do like to imagine insults. No we are not. The post was about the value of notation and my thread was about the refutation of notation as useless and programming as a better alternative to it.
- gspr 6y ago
  > I would not reply if not for the delicious irony the georoge cantor was a schizophrenic lunatic who died poor and homeless. Do the mental problems and drug addiction of a brilliant musician detract from his or her music? Do you yell "madman" at a painting by van Gogh? > Unlike you I welcome the death of mathematicians and mathematics as we know it Even you, with the most pedestrian definition of what is "useful", must surely acknowledge that a lot of mathematics is immensely useful. Yet you wish for its death. You have nothing to replace it with. You sound like Trump and his non-existent healthcare "plans". You're hell-bent on destroying something simply because you cannot grasp it. > No we are not. The post was about the value of notation and my thread was about the refutation of notation as useless and programming as a better alternative to it. Yes, and in a sub-thread of the post you've made it clear that you doubt the usefulness of mathematics. So now we are having a sub-discussion about that. Yet you've still to contribute anything of value. On several occasions have I and others invited you to comment on very concrete mathematical constructions. You evade those invitations. I can only surmise that that is because you do not understand the questions you are being asked, or are unable to provide an alternative to the current standard mathematics. That standard mathematics is done in a somewhat formal language built around the very notation that this thread is about.
  - foobar_ 6y ago