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Do you also think I should consult my identical twin for permission before uploading photos of myself to the internet? Why / why not?

phoe-krk 6y ago
I'd argue not, since a single photography contains much, much less information than a full DNA fingerprint.
- Ultimatt 6y ago
  Not for identifying or incriminating you it doesn't given the practical risk of how the information can be used.
- i_cannot_hack 6y ago
  That's a fair point. However, I'm not entirely sure I buy the premise. With the advent of deepfakes and internet scraping facial recognition, I think a public photo collection of your entire likeness could be considered least somewhat at risk for abuse, when compared to the risk that a confidential fingerprint with ~25% of your genes is leaked and then used against you.
thelittleone 6y ago
Hardly a fair comparison. However the few identical twins I know have been very mindful of how their individual behavior affects the other.
- i_cannot_hack 6y ago
  Of course I realised the comparison would be somewhat controversial, it was actually the point of bringing it up. However, if you have the time I would appreciate it if you tried to articulate why you think the comparison is unfair, instead of just a general dismissal.
  - macintux 6y ago
    Your (twin’s) photo is unlikely to be used for: * Identifying future medical risk factors * Solving 30-year-old cold cases where DNA is the only evidence * Identifying parentage in adoption cases
    - i_cannot_hack 6y ago
      But my (twin's) photos could likely be used used for: * Linking them to the location of a crime using Clearview AI and similar scraping facial recognition services * Creating fake but believable defamatory photos and videos, such as deepfakes * Being scraped and used in fake profiles by spambots and other nefarious actors * Being exploited as a tool in identify theft and identify fraud, via various kinds of social engineering. Do you not consider some of these scenarios worthy of a similar amount of consideration?
      - macintux 6y ago
        I consider them to be unavoidable, barring some extreme off-the-grid efforts. Your photo is out there. Your DNA doesn’t have to be.

phoe-krk 6y ago

I'd argue not, since a single photography contains much, much less information than a full DNA fingerprint.

Ultimatt 6y ago
Not for identifying or incriminating you it doesn't given the practical risk of how the information can be used.
i_cannot_hack 6y ago
That's a fair point. However, I'm not entirely sure I buy the premise. With the advent of deepfakes and internet scraping facial recognition, I think a public photo collection of your entire likeness could be considered least somewhat at risk for abuse, when compared to the risk that a confidential fingerprint with ~25% of your genes is leaked and then used against you.

thelittleone 6y ago

Hardly a fair comparison. However the few identical twins I know have been very mindful of how their individual behavior affects the other.

i_cannot_hack 6y ago
Of course I realised the comparison would be somewhat controversial, it was actually the point of bringing it up. However, if you have the time I would appreciate it if you tried to articulate why you think the comparison is unfair, instead of just a general dismissal.
- macintux 6y ago
  Your (twin’s) photo is unlikely to be used for: * Identifying future medical risk factors * Solving 30-year-old cold cases where DNA is the only evidence * Identifying parentage in adoption cases
  - i_cannot_hack 6y ago
    But my (twin's) photos could likely be used used for: * Linking them to the location of a crime using Clearview AI and similar scraping facial recognition services * Creating fake but believable defamatory photos and videos, such as deepfakes * Being scraped and used in fake profiles by spambots and other nefarious actors * Being exploited as a tool in identify theft and identify fraud, via various kinds of social engineering. Do you not consider some of these scenarios worthy of a similar amount of consideration?
    - macintux 6y ago
      I consider them to be unavoidable, barring some extreme off-the-grid efforts. Your photo is out there. Your DNA doesn’t have to be.