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It sure does get them a lot of attention though! My Jeep Cherokee has lane assist, adaptive cruise control, auto-parking, and crash detection (emergency braking

It sure does get them a lot of attention though! My Jeep Cherokee has lane assist, adaptive cruise control, auto-parking, and crash detection (emergency braking) but they don’t get all this press about it.

patd 6y ago
Maybe because it’s not the same ? I don’t own a Jeep but Lane assist typically means warning the user if you drive over the line. Tesla steers by itself and more. Adaptive Cruise Control typically works only above a given speed. Tesla’s does work at low speed too. At least Tesla cars seem to do more than the German cars I have driven before.
- FireBeyond 6y ago
  Right, but by the same token there's also a reality distortion field where some Tesla owners believe that they have functionality that no-one else does. I have had multiple people tell me about how revolutionary Tesla's blind spot warning system is, because it's adaptive to relative speeds, and not "just a dumb sensor like everyone else's". Except even my entry level 2015 Audi has it. Car in your blind spot or just behind that's at your speed, or slower? Warning time is adjusted accordingly. Sit in traffic while cars whiz by you in the HOV lane? It accounts for the massive speed differential and alerts you far earlier. But somehow at least some Tesla owners think that "no-one but Tesla does this".
- callalex 6y ago
  No that is lane departure warning. Lane assist, which almost every major manufacturer now offers, does the steering to keep you in your lane, and combines with adaptive cruise control to follow the car in front of you at a safe distance. This is almost universally available, and not specific to Tesla at all.
  - mynameisvlad 6y ago
    But is Lane Assist equivalent to Autosteer? I own a Model 3, which also has Lane Assist as a separate feature. I'd say it's a gentle nudge, while Autosteer has full control of the steering wheel (with a fairly high resistance).
- elandrum 6y ago
  Ah sorry, I was conflating two technologies (which are basically the same in my model). "Available LaneSense® Lane Departure Warning with Lane Keep Assist alerts you with visual and audible warnings during unintentional lane drifts and corrects your vehicle back into its lane." I get a visual (and optional audio -- which I disabled) warning and a little steering wheel resistance to bring it back into the middle of the lane. While I'm not sure what the minimum speed for adaptive cruise control is, but I use it in freeway stop & go traffic often.
modeless 6y ago
But it doesn't automatically change lanes to follow routes or pass slow traffic. It doesn't take exits or navigate interchanges. It doesn't stop for stoplights. You can't drive it around a parking lot from your phone with nobody in the driver's seat. What Autopilot offers is not "Full Self Driving", but don't pretend like the features on your Jeep are equivalent.
- dlp211 6y ago
  Because the execs at Jeep know the limitations of their platform, Tesla on the other hand just loves to roll the dice.
  - toomuchtodo 6y ago
    And which automaker has the largest market cap in the world currently? Not Jeep.
    - dlp211 6y ago
      And, so what?
      - toomuchtodo 6y ago
        The market deems Tesla (and their approach) of higher value.

patd 6y ago

Maybe because it’s not the same ? I don’t own a Jeep but Lane assist typically means warning the user if you drive over the line. Tesla steers by itself and more. Adaptive Cruise Control typically works only above a given speed. Tesla’s does work at low speed too. At least Tesla cars seem to do more than the German cars I have driven before.

FireBeyond 6y ago
Right, but by the same token there's also a reality distortion field where some Tesla owners believe that they have functionality that no-one else does. I have had multiple people tell me about how revolutionary Tesla's blind spot warning system is, because it's adaptive to relative speeds, and not "just a dumb sensor like everyone else's". Except even my entry level 2015 Audi has it. Car in your blind spot or just behind that's at your speed, or slower? Warning time is adjusted accordingly. Sit in traffic while cars whiz by you in the HOV lane? It accounts for the massive speed differential and alerts you far earlier. But somehow at least some Tesla owners think that "no-one but Tesla does this".
callalex 6y ago
No that is lane departure warning. Lane assist, which almost every major manufacturer now offers, does the steering to keep you in your lane, and combines with adaptive cruise control to follow the car in front of you at a safe distance. This is almost universally available, and not specific to Tesla at all.
- mynameisvlad 6y ago
  But is Lane Assist equivalent to Autosteer? I own a Model 3, which also has Lane Assist as a separate feature. I'd say it's a gentle nudge, while Autosteer has full control of the steering wheel (with a fairly high resistance).
elandrum 6y ago
Ah sorry, I was conflating two technologies (which are basically the same in my model). "Available LaneSense® Lane Departure Warning with Lane Keep Assist alerts you with visual and audible warnings during unintentional lane drifts and corrects your vehicle back into its lane." I get a visual (and optional audio -- which I disabled) warning and a little steering wheel resistance to bring it back into the middle of the lane. While I'm not sure what the minimum speed for adaptive cruise control is, but I use it in freeway stop & go traffic often.

modeless 6y ago

But it doesn't automatically change lanes to follow routes or pass slow traffic. It doesn't take exits or navigate interchanges. It doesn't stop for stoplights. You can't drive it around a parking lot from your phone with nobody in the driver's seat. What Autopilot offers is not "Full Self Driving", but don't pretend like the features on your Jeep are equivalent.

dlp211 6y ago
Because the execs at Jeep know the limitations of their platform, Tesla on the other hand just loves to roll the dice.
- toomuchtodo 6y ago
  And which automaker has the largest market cap in the world currently? Not Jeep.
  - dlp211 6y ago
    And, so what?
    - toomuchtodo 6y ago
      The market deems Tesla (and their approach) of higher value.