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I'm struggling to understand HN these days. This is being downvoted, and IMHO is the key question to ask the folk putting in the effort. Would love a downvoter

by popped 6y ago

I'm struggling to understand HN these days. This is being downvoted, and IMHO is the key question to ask the folk putting in the effort. Would love a downvoter to give a hint...

hideout_berlin 6y ago
just because it doesn't suit you it doesn't have to be done badly a little understanding for other projects thank you lg from berlin
oscargrouch 6y ago
Not a downvoter but you have reached into one of those unwritten rules: You shall not criticize Apple, Rust and Elon Musk. HN is super cool for any other topics, except when there's some sort of tech cult involved in it.
- dang 6y ago
  There's plenty of criticism of those topics. I think you're running into the notice-dislike bias: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20notice%20dislike&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Your comment here mostly says how you feel about them. This comment breaks the site guideline against going on about downvotes, by the way—in spirit if not in letter. Please don't post like this; it's off topic and boring.
  - oscargrouch 6y ago
    Sorry @dang. Your right. This is the best place to discuss about those same topics, BTW, even when from my perspective, some of them look to have a little more bias than others.
    - dang 6y ago
      Appreciated! I think we all have these perceptions.
dang 6y ago
The biggest factor is randomness, which can't be understood in that way. People frequently imagine stories about why HN is "doing" this or that, but that's a category error, since HN is a statistical cloud. Randomness plus cognitive bias equals narrative, etc. You'll notice that your GP comment is now upvoted while this one is downvoted. That's common, because unfairly downvoted comments frequently get corrective upvotes from users who come along and see that the comment is fine: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=corrective%20upvote&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Meanwhile, complaints like this one break the site guidelines (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html at the bottom!) and usually end up being false as well.

by popped 6y ago

I'm struggling to understand HN these days. This is being downvoted, and IMHO is the key question to ask the folk putting in the effort. Would love a downvoter to give a hint...

hideout_berlin 6y ago

just because it doesn't suit you it doesn't have to be done badly a little understanding for other projects thank you lg from berlin

oscargrouch 6y ago

Not a downvoter but you have reached into one of those unwritten rules: You shall not criticize Apple, Rust and Elon Musk. HN is super cool for any other topics, except when there's some sort of tech cult involved in it.

dang 6y ago
There's plenty of criticism of those topics. I think you're running into the notice-dislike bias: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20notice%20dislike&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Your comment here mostly says how you feel about them. This comment breaks the site guideline against going on about downvotes, by the way—in spirit if not in letter. Please don't post like this; it's off topic and boring.
- oscargrouch 6y ago
  Sorry @dang. Your right. This is the best place to discuss about those same topics, BTW, even when from my perspective, some of them look to have a little more bias than others.
  - dang 6y ago
    Appreciated! I think we all have these perceptions.

dang 6y ago

The biggest factor is randomness, which can't be understood in that way. People frequently imagine stories about why HN is "doing" this or that, but that's a category error, since HN is a statistical cloud. Randomness plus cognitive bias equals narrative, etc. You'll notice that your GP comment is now upvoted while this one is downvoted. That's common, because unfairly downvoted comments frequently get corrective upvotes from users who come along and see that the comment is fine: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=corrective%20upvote&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... Meanwhile, complaints like this one break the site guidelines (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html at the bottom!) and usually end up being false as well.