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I have noticed it, do not worry. I would gladly migrate to US. I am from Europe, highly educated and believe I can contribute to the economy of US. I wish your

I have noticed it, do not worry. I would gladly migrate to US. I am from Europe, highly educated and believe I can contribute to the economy of US. I wish your immigration could be merit based - instead of green card lottery (silly concept). Give me ability to migrate to US for 2 years as probation period. After those 2 years had elapsed, determine if I am overall positive for the economy, did I commit any serious crimes, do I have permanent place to live, etc...; and based on that, let me stay permanently in the country, until I get citizenship.

hef19898 6y ago
So, you are anti-immigration, as long as it doesn't affect you personally?
- ra7 6y ago
  Or probably anti-immigration to their own country, but would “gladly migrate” to US if it were convenient.
  - hef19898 6y ago
    Sounds like it. And being frustrated because it is not as easy as hoped for.
- oknaj 6y ago
  Sorry, should've clarified more. Anti-immigration in the current way it is implemented in US, compared to Canada / Australia, etc...
  - oblio 6y ago
    Hi there, I think you logged into your other account by mistake, oknaj aka nocitrek.
NovemberWhiskey 6y ago
>I wish your immigration could be merit based - instead of green card lottery (silly concept) The diversity lottery is the smallest category of immigrant visas ('green card') issued. The largest is family-based, followed by employment-based.
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screye 6y ago
I don't get it, so you would actually immigrate and think it can be done in win-win manner but are anti-immigration ?
- oknaj 6y ago
  I would gladly immigrate, but not with the current state of things. I do not want to come to US with H1B1 (or equivalent visa) where my employer owns me - deciding my faith.
  - pandaman 6y ago
    If more people were like you and stopped playing pretend immigration while coming in on very restricted temporary visas it would be much better for everyone, and themselves the most. Unfortunately, it seems to be a very contested political statement to recognize the temporary and restrictive nature of their status to the point that I honestly believe that a significant number of them are unaware of the fact that their visas do not grant them a permanent status and there is no [legal] way to become an immigrant by staying in the country for a certain time in a non-immigrant status. Their only real hope to become actual immigrants is to find an employer who will sponsor an EB immigration or marry a citizen/permanent resident. Or wait for an amnesty, last of which happened in 1986. One can, however, get the same EB immigrant visa abroad and come to the country as an immigrant (a lawful permanent resident) with very few restrictions compared to a citizen and with a clear path to citizenship.
    - NovemberWhiskey 6y ago
      That's notionally true, but completely impracticable. First, the current numbers. More than 80% of all EB status is achieved by adjustment, rather than application for visa overseas. Why is this? In order to be issued an EB visa in most categories, the job for which the candidate is being hired must have labor certification (aka PERM). This is (at minimum) a six to nine month process, extending up to a year and half if there is an audit of the company's application. This contrasts with the labor condition application (LCA) for H-1B which takes a couple of weeks. After PERM is complete, the candidate would then enter the queue for available visas. Since applications are adjudicated in strict date order, and there is an annual limit in most categories, the backlogs can be long. For example, the July 2020 visa bulletin indicates that, at best, applicants who started the PERM process for EB-3 visas before 01 APR 2019 can now begin the application process. I say "at best" because the priority date for China mainland applications is 01 MAR 2017, and that for Indian applications is 01 FEB 2010!

hef19898 6y ago

So, you are anti-immigration, as long as it doesn't affect you personally?

ra7 6y ago
Or probably anti-immigration to their own country, but would “gladly migrate” to US if it were convenient.
- hef19898 6y ago
  Sounds like it. And being frustrated because it is not as easy as hoped for.
oknaj 6y ago
Sorry, should've clarified more. Anti-immigration in the current way it is implemented in US, compared to Canada / Australia, etc...
- oblio 6y ago
  Hi there, I think you logged into your other account by mistake, oknaj aka nocitrek.

NovemberWhiskey 6y ago

>I wish your immigration could be merit based - instead of green card lottery (silly concept) The diversity lottery is the smallest category of immigrant visas ('green card') issued. The largest is family-based, followed by employment-based.

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screye 6y ago

I don't get it, so you would actually immigrate and think it can be done in win-win manner but are anti-immigration ?

oknaj 6y ago
I would gladly immigrate, but not with the current state of things. I do not want to come to US with H1B1 (or equivalent visa) where my employer owns me - deciding my faith.
- pandaman 6y ago
  If more people were like you and stopped playing pretend immigration while coming in on very restricted temporary visas it would be much better for everyone, and themselves the most. Unfortunately, it seems to be a very contested political statement to recognize the temporary and restrictive nature of their status to the point that I honestly believe that a significant number of them are unaware of the fact that their visas do not grant them a permanent status and there is no [legal] way to become an immigrant by staying in the country for a certain time in a non-immigrant status. Their only real hope to become actual immigrants is to find an employer who will sponsor an EB immigration or marry a citizen/permanent resident. Or wait for an amnesty, last of which happened in 1986. One can, however, get the same EB immigrant visa abroad and come to the country as an immigrant (a lawful permanent resident) with very few restrictions compared to a citizen and with a clear path to citizenship.
  - NovemberWhiskey 6y ago
    That's notionally true, but completely impracticable. First, the current numbers. More than 80% of all EB status is achieved by adjustment, rather than application for visa overseas. Why is this? In order to be issued an EB visa in most categories, the job for which the candidate is being hired must have labor certification (aka PERM). This is (at minimum) a six to nine month process, extending up to a year and half if there is an audit of the company's application. This contrasts with the labor condition application (LCA) for H-1B which takes a couple of weeks. After PERM is complete, the candidate would then enter the queue for available visas. Since applications are adjudicated in strict date order, and there is an annual limit in most categories, the backlogs can be long. For example, the July 2020 visa bulletin indicates that, at best, applicants who started the PERM process for EB-3 visas before 01 APR 2019 can now begin the application process. I say "at best" because the priority date for China mainland applications is 01 MAR 2017, and that for Indian applications is 01 FEB 2010!