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NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN. For that reason I find it sketchy.

by helloooooooo 6y ago

gzer0 6y ago
I would like to read more about this, do you have a source? I cannot find anything reliable that suggests this! Thanks.
- E5JBK7UJPT 6y ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn_and_tesonet/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...
  - gzer0 6y ago
    This suggests the opposite of what you say in your original comment.
    - krn 6y ago
      https://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn-protonmail-protonvpn/ https://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn...
      - rmrfstar 6y ago
        You should also link the HN thread where proton categorically denies the claims. In particular, the claim that tesonet controls protonvpn's release signing key. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203
        krn 6y ago
        They clearly put a lot of effort in cleaning the mess, as I later discovered myself by being from the same city: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18611863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18611863 It seems very likely now, that ProtonMail just decided to use NordVPN's white-label solution to bootstrap its ProtonVPN business: https://nordvpn.com/white-label/ https://nordvpn.com/white-label/
    - E5JBK7UJPT 6y ago
      I was not the original person that replied to you. I was just providing with you with information on the incident they were referring to. Proton denied the claim but it is up to you whether you believe them or not.
rmrfstar 6y ago
Link. Please.
nix23 6y ago
>NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN What really? Some proof for that? ProtonVPN and ProtonMail is located in Switzerland Genève, i dont see any open positions for estonia https://careers.protonmail.com/ https://careers.protonmail.com/
raxxorrax 6y ago
I don't think NordVPN is sketchy, even with their latest hic-ups. They are however located in Panama as far as I know, which probably gives the US access for "drug trafficing".

NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN. For that reason I find it sketchy.

gzer0 6y ago

I would like to read more about this, do you have a source? I cannot find anything reliable that suggests this! Thanks.

E5JBK7UJPT 6y ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn_and_tesonet/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...
- gzer0 6y ago
  This suggests the opposite of what you say in your original comment.
  - krn 6y ago
    https://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn-protonmail-protonvpn/ https://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn...
    - rmrfstar 6y ago
      You should also link the HN thread where proton categorically denies the claims. In particular, the claim that tesonet controls protonvpn's release signing key. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203
      - krn 6y ago
        They clearly put a lot of effort in cleaning the mess, as I later discovered myself by being from the same city: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18611863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18611863 It seems very likely now, that ProtonMail just decided to use NordVPN's white-label solution to bootstrap its ProtonVPN business: https://nordvpn.com/white-label/ https://nordvpn.com/white-label/
  - E5JBK7UJPT 6y ago
    I was not the original person that replied to you. I was just providing with you with information on the incident they were referring to. Proton denied the claim but it is up to you whether you believe them or not.

rmrfstar 6y ago

Link. Please.

nix23 6y ago

>NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN What really? Some proof for that? ProtonVPN and ProtonMail is located in Switzerland Genève, i dont see any open positions for estonia https://careers.protonmail.com/ https://careers.protonmail.com/

raxxorrax 6y ago

I don't think NordVPN is sketchy, even with their latest hic-ups. They are however located in Panama as far as I know, which probably gives the US access for "drug trafficing".