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I use ProtonVPN. Same company as ProtonMail. Highly reputable with a business model around doing privacy and encryption well.
by pipermerriam 6y ago
I use ProtonVPN. Same company as ProtonMail. Highly reputable with a business model around doing privacy and encryption well.
- helloooooooo 6y agoNordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN. For that reason I find it sketchy.
- gzer0 6y agoI would like to read more about this, do you have a source? I cannot find anything reliable that suggests this! Thanks.
- E5JBK7UJPT 6y agohttps://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn_and_tesonet/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comments/8ww4h2/protonvpn...
- gzer0 6y agoThis suggests the opposite of what you say in your original comment.
- krn 6y agohttps://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn-protonmail-protonvpn/ https://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn...
- rmrfstar 6y agoYou should also link the HN thread where proton categorically denies the claims. In particular, the claim that tesonet controls protonvpn's release signing key. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203
- krn 6y agoThey clearly put a lot of effort in cleaning the mess, as I later discovered myself by being from the same city: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18611863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18611863 It seems very likely now, that ProtonMail just decided to use NordVPN's white-label solution to bootstrap its ProtonVPN business: https://nordvpn.com/white-label/ https://nordvpn.com/white-label/
- E5JBK7UJPT 6y agoI was not the original person that replied to you. I was just providing with you with information on the incident they were referring to. Proton denied the claim but it is up to you whether you believe them or not.
- rmrfstar 6y agoLink. Please.
- nix23 6y ago>NordVPN shares offices in Estonia with ProtonVPN What really? Some proof for that? ProtonVPN and ProtonMail is located in Switzerland Genève, i dont see any open positions for estonia https://careers.protonmail.com/ https://careers.protonmail.com/
- raxxorrax 6y agoI don't think NordVPN is sketchy, even with their latest hic-ups. They are however located in Panama as far as I know, which probably gives the US access for "drug trafficing".
- jorge-d 6y agoIMHO ProtonVPN (and Mail) are the perfect honeypots
- _threads 6y agoHow/why?
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- gzer0 6y agoProtonVPN provides the source code for their desktop and mobile clients in their GitHub organization [1]. Yes open source != safe; however this level of transparency is at least a step in the right direction. They also have regularly been audited by independent organizations that are openly available for the public to see their compliance [2][3][4][5][6]. Do you have any evidence to suggest that they are honeypots? [1] https://github.com/ProtonVPN https://github.com/ProtonVPN [2] https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ProtonVPN-Android-app-audit-report-2020.pdf https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proton... [3] https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ProtonVPN-iOS-app-audit-report-2020.pdf https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proton... [4] https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ProtonVPN-macOS-app-audit-report-2020.pdf https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proton... [5] https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ProtonVPN-Windows-app-audit-report-2020.pdf https://protonvpn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Proton... [6] https://protonvpn.com/blog/open-source/ https://protonvpn.com/blog/open-source/
- 29athrowaway 6y agoAnd how do you know if what they built is exactly what's in that source?
- cambalache 6y agoHehe, exactly, oldest trick in the trade