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Absolutely, HN has its fair share of inappropriate/bad jokes, but I think it happens more often because the guidelines are fairly agnostic. Comedy is subversiv

Absolutely, HN has its fair share of inappropriate/bad jokes, but I think it happens more often because the guidelines are fairly agnostic. Comedy is subversive, but the venue is usually not. When a comedian gives a routine on stage, the audience is primed and has certain expectations. When the audience's expectations are not aligned, it is bad for both the comedian and the audience. My limited experiences on HN as a junior user have yielded a certain kind of fuzziness as to what is acceptable. On any given day, there is a lot of variance in the content, but usually HNish and that's a good thing. Officially, the guidelines are posted and they have an emphasis on intellectual stuff/tone, but leave evocative content unexplained. So the community decides, which is usually sporadic, hap-hazard, heavily-dependent on who posted the submission (people have expectations about what Zed Shaw is going to say), and the touchiness of the content. This probably doesn't happen in other communities that are more clearly guided as either relaxed or strict.

davidw 16y ago
> My limited experiences on HN as a junior user have yielded a certain kind of fuzziness as to what is acceptable. I think that's a good thing. It keeps people on their toes, rather than trotting out the same stupid jokes time and time again. I'll vote for something that's funny in a unique way, but downvote anything smacking of a stupid meme that's been done to death.
ebiester 16y ago
That's easy. It's the Picasso rule -- follow the rules until you understand how to break them. It is true that you are given more slack when your name is known. Think of it as a corollary to the Picasso rule -- others have to know that you know the rules before you are given more leeway on how to break them.
- dasil003 16y ago
  Back in the everything2 days, this was a meme caled "Earn your Bullshit", which they then subsequently expunged from the record because once too many people "earned their bullshit" they realized the proliferation of bullshit was destroying the site. The bottom line is that humour is easy to upvote, and in-jokes are easy to accumulate in any online community, and so we must be ever vigilant. There's nothing wrong with humour now and again, but it requires ongoing, active rejection, and yes, a bit of hypocrisy to avoid becoming Reddit, where every single story has a contentless pun-filled thread 20 levels deep with a reputation of 1000 at the top falling off logarithmically.

davidw 16y ago

> My limited experiences on HN as a junior user have yielded a certain kind of fuzziness as to what is acceptable. I think that's a good thing. It keeps people on their toes, rather than trotting out the same stupid jokes time and time again. I'll vote for something that's funny in a unique way, but downvote anything smacking of a stupid meme that's been done to death.

ebiester 16y ago

That's easy. It's the Picasso rule -- follow the rules until you understand how to break them. It is true that you are given more slack when your name is known. Think of it as a corollary to the Picasso rule -- others have to know that you know the rules before you are given more leeway on how to break them.

dasil003 16y ago
Back in the everything2 days, this was a meme caled "Earn your Bullshit", which they then subsequently expunged from the record because once too many people "earned their bullshit" they realized the proliferation of bullshit was destroying the site. The bottom line is that humour is easy to upvote, and in-jokes are easy to accumulate in any online community, and so we must be ever vigilant. There's nothing wrong with humour now and again, but it requires ongoing, active rejection, and yes, a bit of hypocrisy to avoid becoming Reddit, where every single story has a contentless pun-filled thread 20 levels deep with a reputation of 1000 at the top falling off logarithmically.