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Another fantastic take on coordination issue is Scott Alexander's Meditations on Moloch [0]. 0 - https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/ h

Another fantastic take on coordination issue is Scott Alexander's Meditations on Moloch [0]. 0 - https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/

alexpetralia 6y ago
Related is one of my favorite essays by Aaron Z. Lewis: "Metaphors we believe by" https://aaronzlewis.com/blog/2019/07/25/metaphors-we-believe-by/ https://aaronzlewis.com/blog/2019/07/25/metaphors-we-believe...
- yboris 6y ago
  Metaphors We Live By is also a fantastic book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphors_We_Live_By https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphors_We_Live_By
nicbou 6y ago
It's a very long read, but it's worth it. This post gave me a lot to chew on.
- slx26 6y ago
  yes, the title and introduction don't seem too compelling from the outside, but once it gets into the topic it's indeed a great discussion of the problem witholding us from a better world. so, I have to ask. maybe we haven't coordinated well enough to solve this, but can we coordinate well enough to at least get some bibliography on the topic, attempts at improving the situation...? or is people convinced this is unsolvable? is there any place, site, book or organization seriously trying to tackle this? (I'll search more later, but maybe someone can already add something useful)
  - mistermann 6y ago
    There are a fair amount of people assembling in numerous loosely associated Discord servers, each of which tends to have it's own take/ideology on the overall situation, but you could probably categorize them all under the "Game-B" movement.
    - 3pt14159 6y ago
      I'd like to join these servers. Where can I find them? Googling for "Game-B Discord Servers" doesn't return any useful results.
      - mistermann 6y ago
        Some of them are listed here: https://theportal.wiki/wiki/The_Portal_Discord_Servers https://theportal.wiki/wiki/The_Portal_Discord_Servers The CoffeeHouse is probably a good place to start as it's a bit of a main hub, and over time you will get invited to other ones. Fair warning though, there is a significant amount of religion/spirituality, psychological woo woo, ironic overconfident naivete, etc. Not really all that different than you'll find in any community consisting of human beings, but the flavor and magnitude in these communities is likely quite distinctly different than what the HN culture is likely familiar with. They could sure use some more strictly rational people, and they definitely need folks with advanced technical skills, particularly programmers.

alexpetralia 6y ago

Related is one of my favorite essays by Aaron Z. Lewis: "Metaphors we believe by" https://aaronzlewis.com/blog/2019/07/25/metaphors-we-believe-by/ https://aaronzlewis.com/blog/2019/07/25/metaphors-we-believe...

yboris 6y ago
Metaphors We Live By is also a fantastic book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphors_We_Live_By https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphors_We_Live_By

nicbou 6y ago

It's a very long read, but it's worth it. This post gave me a lot to chew on.

slx26 6y ago
yes, the title and introduction don't seem too compelling from the outside, but once it gets into the topic it's indeed a great discussion of the problem witholding us from a better world. so, I have to ask. maybe we haven't coordinated well enough to solve this, but can we coordinate well enough to at least get some bibliography on the topic, attempts at improving the situation...? or is people convinced this is unsolvable? is there any place, site, book or organization seriously trying to tackle this? (I'll search more later, but maybe someone can already add something useful)
- mistermann 6y ago
  There are a fair amount of people assembling in numerous loosely associated Discord servers, each of which tends to have it's own take/ideology on the overall situation, but you could probably categorize them all under the "Game-B" movement.
  - 3pt14159 6y ago
    I'd like to join these servers. Where can I find them? Googling for "Game-B Discord Servers" doesn't return any useful results.
    - mistermann 6y ago
      Some of them are listed here: https://theportal.wiki/wiki/The_Portal_Discord_Servers https://theportal.wiki/wiki/The_Portal_Discord_Servers The CoffeeHouse is probably a good place to start as it's a bit of a main hub, and over time you will get invited to other ones. Fair warning though, there is a significant amount of religion/spirituality, psychological woo woo, ironic overconfident naivete, etc. Not really all that different than you'll find in any community consisting of human beings, but the flavor and magnitude in these communities is likely quite distinctly different than what the HN culture is likely familiar with. They could sure use some more strictly rational people, and they definitely need folks with advanced technical skills, particularly programmers.