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OK, seeing "﷽" [1] was unexpected :). For those who does not know, it's very important for muslims and It's all over the Quran [1] https://github.com/minimaxir

OK, seeing "﷽" [1] was unexpected :). For those who does not know, it's very important for muslims and It's all over the Quran [1] https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings/blob/9c25300f66fd968ad863412608025908c8aa5efd/naughtystrings/internal/resource.go#L899 https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings/blo...

cheez 6y ago
what does it mean?
- ctdonath 6y ago
  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%EF%B7%BD https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%EF%B7%BD Fun fact: it’s a single Unicode character.
  - atomwaffel 6y ago
    Yup, you can put 280 of it into a single tweet.
    - robinhouston 6y ago
      I don’t think that’s right. I looked into the way Twitter counts characters when I was trying to work out the largest prime number that could be written out in full, in base ten, in a single tweet[1]; the rules are more complicated than you might expect, and have changed several times. The current rule seems to be that all Unicode characters count as two, except for the ranges 0–4351, 8192–8205, 8208–8223 and 8242–8247 which count as one. [1] In case you’re wondering, I think it’s, arguably: https://twitter.com/robinhouston/status/1197294154738544641 https://twitter.com/robinhouston/status/1197294154738544641
      - atomwaffel 6y ago
        Good point! Still, I could swear I saw someone (@FakeUnicode?) do exactly this once, but of course I can’t find that tweet any more, partly because it turns out that search engines don’t handle ﷽ well at all, and I don’t feel like testing it on my own followers somehow. Edit: it looks like it might count it as two characters, so that’s only 140 per tweet.
        cmehdy 6y ago
        I can confirm that I tried it and found the max to be 140 times ﷽
        robinhouston 6y ago
        That’s definitely possible! @FakeUnicode mentioned in the discussion that, when 280-character tweets were first introduced in September 2017, it was possible to tweet 280 single-codepoint emoji using TweetDeck. https://twitter.com/fakeunicode/status/1197282221503041537 https://twitter.com/fakeunicode/status/1197282221503041537 There are several amusing examples in the thread linked from this tweet.
  - harunurhan 6y ago
    yeah I didn't know it until i tried to copy-paste to post here :)
- mmastrac 6y ago
  https://charbase.com/fdfd-unicode-arabic-ligature-bismillah-ar-rahman-ar-raheem https://charbase.com/fdfd-unicode-arabic-ligature-bismillah-... Also fun is ﷺ, (https://charbase.com/fdfa-unicode-arabic-ligature-sallallahou-alayhe-wasallam https://charbase.com/fdfa-unicode-arabic-ligature-sallallaho...) which has the longest unicode decomposition IIRC.
  - beobab 6y ago
    I had to zoom in to 400% to be able to see the detail there.
- gnulinux 6y ago
  "In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful." From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmala https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmala Disclaimer: I'm not a Muslim, I don't know Arabic.
lopmotr 6y ago
Can't it be made up of individual characters or is it stylized in a unique way?
voxic11 6y ago
commit that added it if anyone is interested https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings/commit/bf08dba039dd75f5a788ba173656592876640c1c https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings/com...
totetsu 6y ago
Given that writing systems we have today are pre-digital systems of marks made with the human body and tools, all encoding of text in our HCI is a simulation of writing. Simulations by nature cannot be 100% accurate. choices have to be made about what is represented and simulated. choices have to be made about what to leave out. Simulations are a form of communication, they put forward a perspective about what is the important part of what is being simulated. Seeing a symbol like "﷽" really brought home for me some of the assumptions about writing that I take for granted, and are inherently "argued for" by the way text is handled in our digital systems.
nwallin 6y ago
It's a very unusual "character" as it can sometimes be rendered very, very wide- the same width as maybe 20 or so "normal" characters. (whatever "normal" means. The more I learn about unicode...) The same width as if you had typed it out in a sentence. It breaks a lot of UIs that use character count as a proxy for string width.

cheez 6y ago

what does it mean?

ctdonath 6y ago
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%EF%B7%BD https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%EF%B7%BD Fun fact: it’s a single Unicode character.
- atomwaffel 6y ago
  Yup, you can put 280 of it into a single tweet.
  - robinhouston 6y ago
    I don’t think that’s right. I looked into the way Twitter counts characters when I was trying to work out the largest prime number that could be written out in full, in base ten, in a single tweet[1]; the rules are more complicated than you might expect, and have changed several times. The current rule seems to be that all Unicode characters count as two, except for the ranges 0–4351, 8192–8205, 8208–8223 and 8242–8247 which count as one. [1] In case you’re wondering, I think it’s, arguably: https://twitter.com/robinhouston/status/1197294154738544641 https://twitter.com/robinhouston/status/1197294154738544641
    - atomwaffel 6y ago
      Good point! Still, I could swear I saw someone (@FakeUnicode?) do exactly this once, but of course I can’t find that tweet any more, partly because it turns out that search engines don’t handle ﷽ well at all, and I don’t feel like testing it on my own followers somehow. Edit: it looks like it might count it as two characters, so that’s only 140 per tweet.
      - cmehdy 6y ago
        I can confirm that I tried it and found the max to be 140 times ﷽
      - robinhouston 6y ago
        That’s definitely possible! @FakeUnicode mentioned in the discussion that, when 280-character tweets were first introduced in September 2017, it was possible to tweet 280 single-codepoint emoji using TweetDeck. https://twitter.com/fakeunicode/status/1197282221503041537 https://twitter.com/fakeunicode/status/1197282221503041537 There are several amusing examples in the thread linked from this tweet.
- harunurhan 6y ago
  yeah I didn't know it until i tried to copy-paste to post here :)
mmastrac 6y ago
https://charbase.com/fdfd-unicode-arabic-ligature-bismillah-ar-rahman-ar-raheem https://charbase.com/fdfd-unicode-arabic-ligature-bismillah-... Also fun is ﷺ, (https://charbase.com/fdfa-unicode-arabic-ligature-sallallahou-alayhe-wasallam https://charbase.com/fdfa-unicode-arabic-ligature-sallallaho...) which has the longest unicode decomposition IIRC.
- beobab 6y ago
  I had to zoom in to 400% to be able to see the detail there.
gnulinux 6y ago
"In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful." From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmala https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmala Disclaimer: I'm not a Muslim, I don't know Arabic.

lopmotr 6y ago

Can't it be made up of individual characters or is it stylized in a unique way?

voxic11 6y ago

commit that added it if anyone is interested https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings/commit/bf08dba039dd75f5a788ba173656592876640c1c https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings/com...

totetsu 6y ago

Given that writing systems we have today are pre-digital systems of marks made with the human body and tools, all encoding of text in our HCI is a simulation of writing. Simulations by nature cannot be 100% accurate. choices have to be made about what is represented and simulated. choices have to be made about what to leave out. Simulations are a form of communication, they put forward a perspective about what is the important part of what is being simulated. Seeing a symbol like "﷽" really brought home for me some of the assumptions about writing that I take for granted, and are inherently "argued for" by the way text is handled in our digital systems.

nwallin 6y ago

It's a very unusual "character" as it can sometimes be rendered very, very wide- the same width as maybe 20 or so "normal" characters. (whatever "normal" means. The more I learn about unicode...) The same width as if you had typed it out in a sentence. It breaks a lot of UIs that use character count as a proxy for string width.