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2) the ``This sucks'' response lets you vent anger. Now there are two conflicting theories about controlling strong emotions... ;-) I realise that this is inte

2) the ``This sucks'' response lets you vent anger. Now there are two conflicting theories about controlling strong emotions... ;-) I realise that this is intended for humour, but more seriously, I have experienced much better anger reduction when actually chatting amiably with someone and making a friendly recommendation. ``This sucks'' just passes on the negativity to others.

gnaritas 16y ago
> I have experienced much better anger reduction when actually chatting amiably Great for you, but not everyone is you; some people need to vent to feel better.
- joliss 16y ago
  I seem to recall that there are studies showing that venting isn't an effective tool to make you feel better, despite the popular "catharsis" meme. I can't find them right now, but here's a quote: http://www.bakadesuyo.com/a-few-more-things-pop-psychology-has-been-wro http://www.bakadesuyo.com/a-few-more-things-pop-psychology-h... In any case, if somebody feels the need to vent, I hope they don't do it where I end up reading them. ^^
  - nollidge 16y ago
    There was an episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit that pretty much says the same. If you have Netflix streaming, it's Episode 10 here: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Penn_Teller_Bullsh_t_Season_5/70085700?trkid=2361637 http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Penn_Teller_Bullsh_t_Seaso...
    - raytheon 16y ago
      Elliot Aronson mentions a few studies in his "The Social Animal" book starting on page 263. I'll just briefly list the studies mentioned, in case anyone is interested: - Bushman, B. (2002). Does venting anger feed or extinguish the flame? Catharsis, rumination, distraction, anger and aggressive responding. Personality & Social Psychology Bulletin, 28, 724-731 - Patterson, A. (1974, September). Hostility catharsis: A naturalistic quasi-experiment. paper presented at the annual convention of the American Psychological Assiociation, New Orleans. - Geen, R. (1981). Spectator moods at an aggresive sports event. Journal of Social Psychology, 3, 217-227. - Glass, D. (1964). Changes in liking as a means of reducing cognitive discrepancies between self-esteem and aggression. Journal of Personality, 32, 531-549. - Davis, K.E., & Jones, E.E. (1960). Changes in interpersonal perception as a means of reducing cognitive dissonance. Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology, 61, 402-410. The conclusion seems to be a resounding no. Venting anger does not help, neither verbally nor physically.
    - danssig 16y ago
      Penn & Teller? Talk about being condescending and passing on negativity!
  - gnaritas 16y ago
    It doesn't matter if it's effective or not (I agree that's it's not), people vent because they feel it helps them. Feelings are generally stronger than logic, even when they lead you down the wrong path. Most people are ruled by their emotions, not by their rational mind. Showing someone a study that says their feelings are wrong, will rarely, if ever, convince them to change how they feel. BTW, I'm not a venter, and I wasn't talking about me when I said some people.

gnaritas 16y ago

> I have experienced much better anger reduction when actually chatting amiably Great for you, but not everyone is you; some people need to vent to feel better.

joliss 16y ago
I seem to recall that there are studies showing that venting isn't an effective tool to make you feel better, despite the popular "catharsis" meme. I can't find them right now, but here's a quote: http://www.bakadesuyo.com/a-few-more-things-pop-psychology-has-been-wro http://www.bakadesuyo.com/a-few-more-things-pop-psychology-h... In any case, if somebody feels the need to vent, I hope they don't do it where I end up reading them. ^^
- nollidge 16y ago
  There was an episode of Penn & Teller's Bullshit that pretty much says the same. If you have Netflix streaming, it's Episode 10 here: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Penn_Teller_Bullsh_t_Season_5/70085700?trkid=2361637 http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Penn_Teller_Bullsh_t_Seaso...
  - raytheon 16y ago
    Elliot Aronson mentions a few studies in his "The Social Animal" book starting on page 263. I'll just briefly list the studies mentioned, in case anyone is interested: - Bushman, B. (2002). Does venting anger feed or extinguish the flame? Catharsis, rumination, distraction, anger and aggressive responding. Personality & Social Psychology Bulletin, 28, 724-731 - Patterson, A. (1974, September). Hostility catharsis: A naturalistic quasi-experiment. paper presented at the annual convention of the American Psychological Assiociation, New Orleans. - Geen, R. (1981). Spectator moods at an aggresive sports event. Journal of Social Psychology, 3, 217-227. - Glass, D. (1964). Changes in liking as a means of reducing cognitive discrepancies between self-esteem and aggression. Journal of Personality, 32, 531-549. - Davis, K.E., & Jones, E.E. (1960). Changes in interpersonal perception as a means of reducing cognitive dissonance. Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology, 61, 402-410. The conclusion seems to be a resounding no. Venting anger does not help, neither verbally nor physically.
  - danssig 16y ago
    Penn & Teller? Talk about being condescending and passing on negativity!
- gnaritas 16y ago
  It doesn't matter if it's effective or not (I agree that's it's not), people vent because they feel it helps them. Feelings are generally stronger than logic, even when they lead you down the wrong path. Most people are ruled by their emotions, not by their rational mind. Showing someone a study that says their feelings are wrong, will rarely, if ever, convince them to change how they feel. BTW, I'm not a venter, and I wasn't talking about me when I said some people.