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> people with kids win at life That's a pretty insulting statement for those of us who can't have / don't want children. It's not a competition. We've chosen

> people with kids win at life That's a pretty insulting statement for those of us who can't have / don't want children. It's not a competition. We've chosen different paths than you. Not worse, just different.

salamanderman 6y ago
It definitely isn't a competition, because us parents clearly won ;-) ... That was dripping sarcasm. Please don't down vote.
ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
Kids make you happy, but only when they move out as as long as they don’t break the bank. Truth is having kids is a kiss of death for your creative and professional career. E: Of course downvotes. Truth hurts. Let’s see how grey my comment gets.
- elpatoisthebest 6y ago
  Your edit got under my skin way more than your comment did. Kiss of death seemed melodramatic at best though. Every CEO, CTO, and CFO I've worked with had kids. Guess they were the lucky few who didn't have their professional career ruined by those goblin children?
  - ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
    We’re not impressed by the same caliber of people obviously. Don’t pretend tech is a meritocracy. It’s all nepotism. I get under everyone’s skin here. Just seeing my username is enough to get ppl riled up in HN
    - elpatoisthebest 6y ago
      ? That entire first line seems entirely unrelated the the words I typed. Did you respond to the correct person?
- jonfw 6y ago
  It's absolutely harmful to your creative and professional career, which are shallow metrics by which to gauge your success in life.
  - ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
    Maybe to someone who isn’t ambitious or intelligent but personally, I’d rather write a great book or make great software. I believe, like Proust, that art is how you reach immortality. What’s dumb is to tell people you’re better than Proust because you popped out some brats.
- GarvielLoken 6y ago
  Only if you care personally for the kids. Pick up a history book, filled with famous persons who had lot's of kids, but they were raised by family and staff.
  - ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
    You’re proving my point. How about you learn to read? Y’all are just calling me dumb but not backing it up.
zhoujianfu 6y ago
Agreed... I remember a study on “do kids make you happier” and their conclusion was “kids make you happier if you want kids”.. people who didn’t want kids but had them or wanted kids but couldn’t have them were sadder, but people who didn’t want kids and didn’t have them were just as happy. Which I guess makes sense... people are happy when they get what they want!
- nbardy 6y ago
  If you're having kids you're striving for things that aren't happiness. Often trading exhaustion for purpose and meaning.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    If you want kids and you have kids it certainly looks like you are striving for happiness.
BurningFrog 6y ago
Sure I could have rephrased it along the lines of "you have the invaluable blessing of children, and surely that's more important than a 15% pay rise?".
esotericn 6y ago
Yo, it's a joke, they literally have "won at <creating> life" ;).

salamanderman 6y ago

It definitely isn't a competition, because us parents clearly won ;-) ... That was dripping sarcasm. Please don't down vote.

ulisesrmzroche 6y ago

Kids make you happy, but only when they move out as as long as they don’t break the bank. Truth is having kids is a kiss of death for your creative and professional career. E: Of course downvotes. Truth hurts. Let’s see how grey my comment gets.

elpatoisthebest 6y ago
Your edit got under my skin way more than your comment did. Kiss of death seemed melodramatic at best though. Every CEO, CTO, and CFO I've worked with had kids. Guess they were the lucky few who didn't have their professional career ruined by those goblin children?
- ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
  We’re not impressed by the same caliber of people obviously. Don’t pretend tech is a meritocracy. It’s all nepotism. I get under everyone’s skin here. Just seeing my username is enough to get ppl riled up in HN
  - elpatoisthebest 6y ago
    ? That entire first line seems entirely unrelated the the words I typed. Did you respond to the correct person?
jonfw 6y ago
It's absolutely harmful to your creative and professional career, which are shallow metrics by which to gauge your success in life.
- ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
  Maybe to someone who isn’t ambitious or intelligent but personally, I’d rather write a great book or make great software. I believe, like Proust, that art is how you reach immortality. What’s dumb is to tell people you’re better than Proust because you popped out some brats.
GarvielLoken 6y ago
Only if you care personally for the kids. Pick up a history book, filled with famous persons who had lot's of kids, but they were raised by family and staff.
- ulisesrmzroche 6y ago
  You’re proving my point. How about you learn to read? Y’all are just calling me dumb but not backing it up.

zhoujianfu 6y ago

Agreed... I remember a study on “do kids make you happier” and their conclusion was “kids make you happier if you want kids”.. people who didn’t want kids but had them or wanted kids but couldn’t have them were sadder, but people who didn’t want kids and didn’t have them were just as happy. Which I guess makes sense... people are happy when they get what they want!

nbardy 6y ago
If you're having kids you're striving for things that aren't happiness. Often trading exhaustion for purpose and meaning.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  If you want kids and you have kids it certainly looks like you are striving for happiness.

BurningFrog 6y ago

Sure I could have rephrased it along the lines of "you have the invaluable blessing of children, and surely that's more important than a 15% pay rise?".

esotericn 6y ago

Yo, it's a joke, they literally have "won at <creating> life" ;).