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> "a good man who did a stupid thing" Amazing that changing bits in some databases can change one's life dramatically.

bigdict 6y ago
Yeah… Conversely, amazing how such very important things are encoded as voltage levels in some dumb little circuit.
quickthrowman 6y ago
The trader went long 7,000 contracts, there were market participants on the other side that sold the contracts. It’s a bit more than just some bits changing, trades with real money happened on an exchange.
- icedchai 6y ago
  Consider "real money" is also just bits changing hands. Especially when it's not yours.
LeoTinnitus 6y ago
I was listening to a podcast recently where a guy was joking about how felony Duis don't matter in the US. He said his company wanted to hire this girl but they said they wanted to know if she had any felonies to which she said yes, a DUI or something. They laughed at it in the interview and then hired her right away. Goes to show people sorta understand when it comes to alcohol it's not really their fault in the couple one off scenarios.
- blahbhthrow3748 6y ago
  DUIs are super serious, I would consider that a major lapse in judgement. US culture is fucked
  - yellowapple 6y ago
    I mean, it depends on how recent it was. Last decade? We all make mistakes when we're young, so who am I to judge. Last week? Yeah, no way in hell I'm hiring you.
  - SamReidHughes 6y ago
    It only increases the relative probability of a fatal crash by 6-20 times (as of the 1970’s, according to DOT, .10-.15 BAC). So it’s basically the same as taking multiple trips. If you take some care in route selection, or drive at 2:00 am when nobody is on the road, or drive from the pub around the corner, it’s less risky than that.
    - Swenrekcah 6y ago
      Nobody's on the road except some unlucky person that the drunkard runs head first into. Plenty of examples of that.
    - bathtub365 6y ago
      If the pub is around the corner, just walk.
      - LeoTinnitus 6y ago
        That is never the case in the US. Imagine half the population size of your country, then space out the distance between where you are and everything else by 10 or more. The reason we drive everywhere isn't because we want to, it's because we have to. Driving is our second pair of legs basically because everything is a minimum 10-25KM away from everything...if not greater.
        masonic 6y ago
        That is never the case in the US. It probably is the case that there is alcohol within walking distance (even for Americans) for at least 30% of the US population, even most suburbs. What Europeans consider "pubs"? No, because that's not the culture. Here, restaurants serve alcohol. There, pubs serve food.
- mywittyname 6y ago
  I can't see a situation where a DUI isn't your fault. I guess there's probably edge cases or whatever, but I think the vast majority of the time, it's your fault. That being said, I don't think I'd hold a DUI against a person, mainly because the system is set up to fuck you. If you decline a breath-a-lyzer, then you suffer nearly the same fate as failing it. At minimum you lose your license, at worst you get arrested and they get a warrant to take a blood sample. It's completely possible to get punished for drunk driving without ever touching the stuff. I've been pulled over at night and experienced an officer absolutely trying to pin me for DUI despite clear evidence to the contrary. Police love to brag about how expensive DUIs, I've seen lots of anti-drunk driving billboards that reference cost in some way. And knowing police forces in the US, well all know they are pocketing a healthy chunk of change from each DUI. Now, if you have nine DUIs, that's a different story...
  - ashtonkem 6y ago
    That would be a good argument if DUIs were a victimless crime, but DUIs regularly put innocent bystanders into an early grave. It serves the public interest to treat DUIs very seriously, as they have a measurable impact on everyone. Now if you want to argue that the system is ineffective at reducing DUIs, that’s a different argument.
    - LeoTinnitus 6y ago
      Yes absolutely and nobody is arguing that. What is an issue with the US is that we're a motor vehicle country and there is virtually no public transportation. Hell even cabs or ubers are non-existant in a large portion of the rural areas. So DUI's are kinda you're only option. I actually live in Wisconsin where I probably can't count how many times I've seen on the news someone getting pulled over for their n'th DUI. It doesn't even phase me and the funny part is they never get jail time, major fines, or felonies.
      - Normal_gaussian 6y ago
        The option is not to drink.
- currymj 6y ago
  i'm really curious what state this was in. some states are quite lax both legally and in terms of public opinion (e.g. Wisconsin) but most are pretty harsh.
  - LeoTinnitus 6y ago
    The podcast didn't mention where she got here DUI in. She was just applying to a company in California. However I am from Wisconsin and I can vouch for that. DUI's are like misdemeanors, no matter how many felonies of them you've gotten. So long as "DUI" is after it and you're not doing a driving job, nobody cares.
    - masonic 6y ago
      Repeat offenders for felony DUI generally get incarcerated.
      - LeoTinnitus 6y ago
        Not often in Wisconsin. It's not uncommon to hear a news story of a person who has had their like 8th DUI. It doesn't even phase me anymore to be honest.
danhak 6y ago
You can reduce nearly any action of consequence to sound trivial in this way. "Changing some bits," "writing some words," "rearranging a few atoms." It doesn't add much understanding.

Yeah… Conversely, amazing how such very important things are encoded as voltage levels in some dumb little circuit.

The trader went long 7,000 contracts, there were market participants on the other side that sold the contracts. It’s a bit more than just some bits changing, trades with real money happened on an exchange.

icedchai 6y ago
Consider "real money" is also just bits changing hands. Especially when it's not yours.

LeoTinnitus 6y ago

I was listening to a podcast recently where a guy was joking about how felony Duis don't matter in the US. He said his company wanted to hire this girl but they said they wanted to know if she had any felonies to which she said yes, a DUI or something. They laughed at it in the interview and then hired her right away. Goes to show people sorta understand when it comes to alcohol it's not really their fault in the couple one off scenarios.

blahbhthrow3748 6y ago
DUIs are super serious, I would consider that a major lapse in judgement. US culture is fucked
- yellowapple 6y ago
  I mean, it depends on how recent it was. Last decade? We all make mistakes when we're young, so who am I to judge. Last week? Yeah, no way in hell I'm hiring you.
- SamReidHughes 6y ago
  It only increases the relative probability of a fatal crash by 6-20 times (as of the 1970’s, according to DOT, .10-.15 BAC). So it’s basically the same as taking multiple trips. If you take some care in route selection, or drive at 2:00 am when nobody is on the road, or drive from the pub around the corner, it’s less risky than that.
  - Swenrekcah 6y ago
    Nobody's on the road except some unlucky person that the drunkard runs head first into. Plenty of examples of that.
  - bathtub365 6y ago
    If the pub is around the corner, just walk.
    - LeoTinnitus 6y ago
      That is never the case in the US. Imagine half the population size of your country, then space out the distance between where you are and everything else by 10 or more. The reason we drive everywhere isn't because we want to, it's because we have to. Driving is our second pair of legs basically because everything is a minimum 10-25KM away from everything...if not greater.
      - masonic 6y ago
        That is never the case in the US. It probably is the case that there is alcohol within walking distance (even for Americans) for at least 30% of the US population, even most suburbs. What Europeans consider "pubs"? No, because that's not the culture. Here, restaurants serve alcohol. There, pubs serve food.
mywittyname 6y ago
I can't see a situation where a DUI isn't your fault. I guess there's probably edge cases or whatever, but I think the vast majority of the time, it's your fault. That being said, I don't think I'd hold a DUI against a person, mainly because the system is set up to fuck you. If you decline a breath-a-lyzer, then you suffer nearly the same fate as failing it. At minimum you lose your license, at worst you get arrested and they get a warrant to take a blood sample. It's completely possible to get punished for drunk driving without ever touching the stuff. I've been pulled over at night and experienced an officer absolutely trying to pin me for DUI despite clear evidence to the contrary. Police love to brag about how expensive DUIs, I've seen lots of anti-drunk driving billboards that reference cost in some way. And knowing police forces in the US, well all know they are pocketing a healthy chunk of change from each DUI. Now, if you have nine DUIs, that's a different story...
- ashtonkem 6y ago
  That would be a good argument if DUIs were a victimless crime, but DUIs regularly put innocent bystanders into an early grave. It serves the public interest to treat DUIs very seriously, as they have a measurable impact on everyone. Now if you want to argue that the system is ineffective at reducing DUIs, that’s a different argument.
  - LeoTinnitus 6y ago
    Yes absolutely and nobody is arguing that. What is an issue with the US is that we're a motor vehicle country and there is virtually no public transportation. Hell even cabs or ubers are non-existant in a large portion of the rural areas. So DUI's are kinda you're only option. I actually live in Wisconsin where I probably can't count how many times I've seen on the news someone getting pulled over for their n'th DUI. It doesn't even phase me and the funny part is they never get jail time, major fines, or felonies.
    - Normal_gaussian 6y ago
      The option is not to drink.
currymj 6y ago
i'm really curious what state this was in. some states are quite lax both legally and in terms of public opinion (e.g. Wisconsin) but most are pretty harsh.
- LeoTinnitus 6y ago
  The podcast didn't mention where she got here DUI in. She was just applying to a company in California. However I am from Wisconsin and I can vouch for that. DUI's are like misdemeanors, no matter how many felonies of them you've gotten. So long as "DUI" is after it and you're not doing a driving job, nobody cares.
  - masonic 6y ago
    Repeat offenders for felony DUI generally get incarcerated.
    - LeoTinnitus 6y ago
      Not often in Wisconsin. It's not uncommon to hear a news story of a person who has had their like 8th DUI. It doesn't even phase me anymore to be honest.

danhak 6y ago

You can reduce nearly any action of consequence to sound trivial in this way. "Changing some bits," "writing some words," "rearranging a few atoms." It doesn't add much understanding.