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windows on linux or linux on windows...WHO will WIN?

pjmlp 6y ago
This is nothing new, I have used X Windows servers on Windows all the way back to 1999, there are quite a few to choose from. If anything the amount to choose from went down not up, slowly replaced by RDP clients. So that tells who will will win.
- int_19h 6y ago
  That might change with WSL drastically increasing the demand for such a thing. With enough resources, doing it as an X server is the better approach because it gives more flexibility - top-level windows can be shown directly on the host desktop etc. And with enough demand, there are resources for something like X410... I've used both Xrdp and X410 for my WSL UI needs, and so far X140 has been a much better experience by far.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Yeah, as if that is anything new versus Cygwin with XWin32 for example.
    - int_19h 6y ago
      In terms of sheer number of active users, yeah, I'm fairly sure it is. There's lots and lots of developers who live in the Microsoft bubble, who might have never even heard of Cygwin - but who will hear about WSL from their routine conferences, training etc.
  - beatrobot 6y ago
    RDP also supports showing only the windows instead of the full desktop session.
clouddrover 6y ago
The end users.
29athrowaway 6y ago
Or just Linux with WINE, without Windows.
jng 6y ago
Is there even a doubt? Windows has a chance at supporting the open, documented interfaces of Linux. Linux has no chance at supported the closed, undocumented interfaces of Linux.
- pritambaral 6y ago
  > the closed, undocumented interfaces of Linux. Perhaps you meant "Windows"?
  - jng 6y ago
    Indeed, thanks for the correction.
thejosh 6y ago
What do actual users who would want to run Linux actually run? Probably games? Maybe office?
- meddlepal 6y ago
  I dual boot right now and hop into Windows only for games. Wine is janky so that's not a good solution. I've been a pretty devoted Linux user for close to 20 years but I'm starting to seriously consider switching to a WSL setup in the future.
  - cercatrova 6y ago
    You can try a Windows VM with GPU passthrough, there's Looking Glass with transparently sends the VM pixels to a Linux window with native performance. https://looking-glass.hostfission.com https://looking-glass.hostfission.com
    - meddlepal 6y ago
      Thanks, I'll take a look at this!

This is nothing new, I have used X Windows servers on Windows all the way back to 1999, there are quite a few to choose from. If anything the amount to choose from went down not up, slowly replaced by RDP clients. So that tells who will will win.

int_19h 6y ago
That might change with WSL drastically increasing the demand for such a thing. With enough resources, doing it as an X server is the better approach because it gives more flexibility - top-level windows can be shown directly on the host desktop etc. And with enough demand, there are resources for something like X410... I've used both Xrdp and X410 for my WSL UI needs, and so far X140 has been a much better experience by far.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Yeah, as if that is anything new versus Cygwin with XWin32 for example.
  - int_19h 6y ago
    In terms of sheer number of active users, yeah, I'm fairly sure it is. There's lots and lots of developers who live in the Microsoft bubble, who might have never even heard of Cygwin - but who will hear about WSL from their routine conferences, training etc.
- beatrobot 6y ago
  RDP also supports showing only the windows instead of the full desktop session.

clouddrover 6y ago

The end users.

29athrowaway 6y ago

Or just Linux with WINE, without Windows.

jng 6y ago

Is there even a doubt? Windows has a chance at supporting the open, documented interfaces of Linux. Linux has no chance at supported the closed, undocumented interfaces of Linux.

pritambaral 6y ago
> the closed, undocumented interfaces of Linux. Perhaps you meant "Windows"?
- jng 6y ago
  Indeed, thanks for the correction.

thejosh 6y ago

What do actual users who would want to run Linux actually run? Probably games? Maybe office?

meddlepal 6y ago
I dual boot right now and hop into Windows only for games. Wine is janky so that's not a good solution. I've been a pretty devoted Linux user for close to 20 years but I'm starting to seriously consider switching to a WSL setup in the future.
- cercatrova 6y ago
  You can try a Windows VM with GPU passthrough, there's Looking Glass with transparently sends the VM pixels to a Linux window with native performance. https://looking-glass.hostfission.com https://looking-glass.hostfission.com
  - meddlepal 6y ago
    Thanks, I'll take a look at this!