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> We also basically have no treatment Not so: https://www.cancernetwork.com/news/clinical-trial-explores-azithromycin-hydroxychloroquine-combo-covid-19-treatm

> We also basically have no treatment Not so: https://www.cancernetwork.com/news/clinical-trial-explores-azithromycin-hydroxychloroquine-combo-covid-19-treatment https://www.cancernetwork.com/news/clinical-trial-explores-a... Edit: Besides, what if the cure already exists, and Big Pharma wants to make more money selling long-term treatment drugs and equipment?

DoreenMichele 6y ago
Clinical trials are not the same thing as reasonably effective, proven treatment. We are seeing an 80% death rate for people on ventilators. This means when the worst happens, most people die, even with heroic measures and the most advanced technology available. When they have a more reliable means to treat people in serious distress, I think people will be more amenable to easing the lockdown. Until then, it's a big fat fuck you to people in high risk categories. I am hearing that doctors are comparing it to high altitude sickness and trying to come up with a more accurate mental model that may yield more effective treatment than ventilators. I hope that happens rapidly. A big breakthrough in that area, where we know what the hell to do for you when things get really bad, would make a very big difference in this situation. Edit in reply to your edit: I don't think that's at all what is going on. I think I have some idea of what would help. It's mostly not more serious drugs. As a former homemaker, no one much cares what I think. But just as one human to another in a stupid online discussion, I'm all for blaming big pharma for a lot of things, but not this time.
mattkrause 6y ago
Other than the dubious French data, there's no evidence in favor of HCQ. Nor does the recent NJEM paper "support" remdesivir (no control!). Lord knows I hope something pans out, it's not even remotely true that we have a treatment.

DoreenMichele 6y ago

Clinical trials are not the same thing as reasonably effective, proven treatment. We are seeing an 80% death rate for people on ventilators. This means when the worst happens, most people die, even with heroic measures and the most advanced technology available. When they have a more reliable means to treat people in serious distress, I think people will be more amenable to easing the lockdown. Until then, it's a big fat fuck you to people in high risk categories. I am hearing that doctors are comparing it to high altitude sickness and trying to come up with a more accurate mental model that may yield more effective treatment than ventilators. I hope that happens rapidly. A big breakthrough in that area, where we know what the hell to do for you when things get really bad, would make a very big difference in this situation. Edit in reply to your edit: I don't think that's at all what is going on. I think I have some idea of what would help. It's mostly not more serious drugs. As a former homemaker, no one much cares what I think. But just as one human to another in a stupid online discussion, I'm all for blaming big pharma for a lot of things, but not this time.

mattkrause 6y ago

Other than the dubious French data, there's no evidence in favor of HCQ. Nor does the recent NJEM paper "support" remdesivir (no control!). Lord knows I hope something pans out, it's not even remotely true that we have a treatment.