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Maybe the Chinese government shouldn't have been hiding information and silencing doctors, or the Taiwanese, or the WHO providing bad guidance even back in Janu

by tallon 6y ago

Maybe the Chinese government shouldn't have been hiding information and silencing doctors, or the Taiwanese, or the WHO providing bad guidance even back in January.

joshstrange 6y ago
Excuses. The government has crazy levels of surveillance but they took the Chinese at their word and didn't check? I smell bullshit. There were multiple people warning that China was suppressing their numbers and outright lying about what was happening, the government/administration not listening is 100% on them. I'm sure we will continue to see evidence that people inside the government (not the administration) were yelling about this but no one (in the administration) would listen. This is 9/11 all over again except even more unexcusable. They had intel about the plane hijacking plan but due to too much information and mistakes in the data (name mismatch) they didn't put 2 and 2 together. This time they had the data and regular citizens were able to see what was happening and started warning us and all of that was ignored.
- bobslater 6y ago
  Chinese Government knows, then covers up deadly virus causing mass world deaths and consequences, even makes people disappear = fine, any criticism is hidden, "it's a global virus" U.S officials might have known about a potential crisis that might happen = end of the world, how evil is America and the orange man!
  - joshstrange 6y ago
    sigh Well it speaks volumes you created a throwaway just for this post. I'm not saying the Chinese government is "fine", I'm just saying it's not an excuse. China is going to do China things and acting surprised at that is just... intellectually dishonest. > U.S officials might have known about a potential crisis that might happen I see how changing my argument, and the facts, might make it easier to defeat but the bottom line is they did know. There is no "might" about it. Trump continually played down the virus, pushed unproven treatments, and attacked anyone who asks a question that might make him look bad. Maybe I have a different viewpoint but downplaying something because it might affect the economy and therefore your reelection is pretty evil in my book. Funniest thing? If he had taken it seriously he would have locked up his reelection.
    - burfog 6y ago
      His use of a throwaway speaks volumes about fear of political repercussions. His regular account (assuming he has one) is probably associated with his name, and he most likely works in a place like San Francisco or New York City. If so, he could lose his job for being non-hostile to Trump. Some employers are really bigoted about that.

by tallon 6y ago

Maybe the Chinese government shouldn't have been hiding information and silencing doctors, or the Taiwanese, or the WHO providing bad guidance even back in January.

joshstrange 6y ago

Excuses. The government has crazy levels of surveillance but they took the Chinese at their word and didn't check? I smell bullshit. There were multiple people warning that China was suppressing their numbers and outright lying about what was happening, the government/administration not listening is 100% on them. I'm sure we will continue to see evidence that people inside the government (not the administration) were yelling about this but no one (in the administration) would listen. This is 9/11 all over again except even more unexcusable. They had intel about the plane hijacking plan but due to too much information and mistakes in the data (name mismatch) they didn't put 2 and 2 together. This time they had the data and regular citizens were able to see what was happening and started warning us and all of that was ignored.

bobslater 6y ago
Chinese Government knows, then covers up deadly virus causing mass world deaths and consequences, even makes people disappear = fine, any criticism is hidden, "it's a global virus" U.S officials might have known about a potential crisis that might happen = end of the world, how evil is America and the orange man!
- joshstrange 6y ago
  sigh Well it speaks volumes you created a throwaway just for this post. I'm not saying the Chinese government is "fine", I'm just saying it's not an excuse. China is going to do China things and acting surprised at that is just... intellectually dishonest. > U.S officials might have known about a potential crisis that might happen I see how changing my argument, and the facts, might make it easier to defeat but the bottom line is they did know. There is no "might" about it. Trump continually played down the virus, pushed unproven treatments, and attacked anyone who asks a question that might make him look bad. Maybe I have a different viewpoint but downplaying something because it might affect the economy and therefore your reelection is pretty evil in my book. Funniest thing? If he had taken it seriously he would have locked up his reelection.
  - burfog 6y ago
    His use of a throwaway speaks volumes about fear of political repercussions. His regular account (assuming he has one) is probably associated with his name, and he most likely works in a place like San Francisco or New York City. If so, he could lose his job for being non-hostile to Trump. Some employers are really bigoted about that.