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I don't like zoom either, but what exactly made them the HN punching bag of the month? Ad/surveillance giants like Google or FB are typically spoken of with not

I don't like zoom either, but what exactly made them the HN punching bag of the month? Ad/surveillance giants like Google or FB are typically spoken of with notes of reverence and awe on here. Zoom gets lit-up for sending data to FB, but FB gets a pass? I don't know I just can't get into the mood. extinguishes torch in moat.

fosk 6y ago
The stock price.
gipp 6y ago
> Ad/surveillance giants like Google or FB are typically spoken of with notes of reverence and awe on here. Uh. Are we reading different websites? This is the most vocally anti-everything-FAANG community I've seen on the Internet, since about 2017 or so. Except Apple, mostly.
- jakear 6y ago
  Netflix also seems to be acceptable.
  - gipp 6y ago
    Yeah, that's true, although we all know they're just in there so the acronym works.
  - gpm 6y ago
    I'll just chime in that Apple and Netflix the FAANG companies I dislike the most, for balance ;)
  - lonesword 6y ago
    Microsoft too seems to be getting less hate than Google/Facebook. EDIT: Ok MS is not FAANG.
ilikehurdles 6y ago
And on the FB note, let's clear that up -- FB ships a mandatory phone-home analytics feature on their mobile SDKs used to enable the "sign in with facebook button". This sends your users' data over to their servers _even when_ those users do not use a Facebook social sign-on. Zoom removed that SDK within a day of finding out this was happening, yet it continues to be plastered around the web as if its an ongoing data collection; meanwhile, crickets at the fact that half the apps on our phones have this Facebook spyware.
dang 6y ago
Same answer as a week ago, I think: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22754135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22754135 lacker put it particularly nicely: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22814338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22814338
mr_toad 6y ago
Being effectively forced to use a product with security and privacy issues because of network effects. Zoom is pushing all the buttons. Google, Facebook and others get criticism for exactly the same reasons
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fosk 6y ago

The stock price.

gipp 6y ago

> Ad/surveillance giants like Google or FB are typically spoken of with notes of reverence and awe on here. Uh. Are we reading different websites? This is the most vocally anti-everything-FAANG community I've seen on the Internet, since about 2017 or so. Except Apple, mostly.

jakear 6y ago
Netflix also seems to be acceptable.
- gipp 6y ago
  Yeah, that's true, although we all know they're just in there so the acronym works.
- gpm 6y ago
  I'll just chime in that Apple and Netflix the FAANG companies I dislike the most, for balance ;)
- lonesword 6y ago
  Microsoft too seems to be getting less hate than Google/Facebook. EDIT: Ok MS is not FAANG.

ilikehurdles 6y ago

And on the FB note, let's clear that up -- FB ships a mandatory phone-home analytics feature on their mobile SDKs used to enable the "sign in with facebook button". This sends your users' data over to their servers _even when_ those users do not use a Facebook social sign-on. Zoom removed that SDK within a day of finding out this was happening, yet it continues to be plastered around the web as if its an ongoing data collection; meanwhile, crickets at the fact that half the apps on our phones have this Facebook spyware.

dang 6y ago

Same answer as a week ago, I think: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22754135 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22754135 lacker put it particularly nicely: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22814338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22814338

mr_toad 6y ago

Being effectively forced to use a product with security and privacy issues because of network effects. Zoom is pushing all the buttons. Google, Facebook and others get criticism for exactly the same reasons

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