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In Dublin, where the housing crisis is supported by an overabundance of "student accommodation" and airbnb rentals, the housing crisis disappeared overnight bec

In Dublin, where the housing crisis is supported by an overabundance of "student accommodation" and airbnb rentals, the housing crisis disappeared overnight because of this virus. A friend of mine said she found a small apartment for two in Dublin 5 for 800 euro a month. Unbelievable.

s_dev 6y ago
>the housing crisis disappeared overnight because of this virus Thats a bit disingenous and hyperbolic. It is true that more apartments are available (00's) due to Corona but the housing crisis is far from over.
- mannykannot 6y ago
  It may be mistaken and exaggerated, but did you really intend to write that wickerman is being disingenuous?
  - s_dev 6y ago
    He's misrepresenting Dublin intentionally to contrive the point that AirBnB and student accomodation are entirely the cause of the problem. It's far more nuanced and complex -- involving tax laws, property dev incentives and planning laws and policy. None of which he mentions.
    - pnutjam 6y ago
      involving tax laws property dev incentives - airbnb & student housing planning laws - airbnb & student housing policy - airbn and student housing All of these except possibly the first item could directly address airbnb & student housing. I'm not seeing where you 2 disagree.
lapnitnelav 6y ago
Just had a wee look at Daft and the desperation starts to be quite obvious, with the prices being slashed and some offering 2 months rent free. Good. May they collapse swiftly.
CalRobert 6y ago
I study the Irish housing market, and if you're curious, I did a little analysis of this at https://www.reddit.com/r/Dublin/comments/ftjhuk/comparison_of_2_bedroom_flats_under_2000_from/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Dublin/comments/ftjhuk/comparison_o... and https://www.gaffologist.com/flats.png https://www.gaffologist.com/flats.png Honestly I think airbnb and student housing are scapegoats to an extent, where the bigger problem is a council that tends to oppose new housing they don't control (aka stuff that isn't council flats, which most people don't qualify for), and the political imperative to keep housing expensive means keeping it scarce. Height restrictions in the absolute middle of the city are bizarre, and it's kind of shocking that we still have low-ish density suburban semi-d's next to Grafton Street. https://goo.gl/maps/MzB5DfXpqCZp9V5V6 https://goo.gl/maps/MzB5DfXpqCZp9V5V6 Edit: If I may risk a small plug - I was displeased with the UI of Irish housing sites and made www.gaffologist.com to address this.

s_dev 6y ago

>the housing crisis disappeared overnight because of this virus Thats a bit disingenous and hyperbolic. It is true that more apartments are available (00's) due to Corona but the housing crisis is far from over.

mannykannot 6y ago
It may be mistaken and exaggerated, but did you really intend to write that wickerman is being disingenuous?
- s_dev 6y ago
  He's misrepresenting Dublin intentionally to contrive the point that AirBnB and student accomodation are entirely the cause of the problem. It's far more nuanced and complex -- involving tax laws, property dev incentives and planning laws and policy. None of which he mentions.
  - pnutjam 6y ago
    involving tax laws property dev incentives - airbnb & student housing planning laws - airbnb & student housing policy - airbn and student housing All of these except possibly the first item could directly address airbnb & student housing. I'm not seeing where you 2 disagree.

lapnitnelav 6y ago

Just had a wee look at Daft and the desperation starts to be quite obvious, with the prices being slashed and some offering 2 months rent free. Good. May they collapse swiftly.

CalRobert 6y ago

I study the Irish housing market, and if you're curious, I did a little analysis of this at https://www.reddit.com/r/Dublin/comments/ftjhuk/comparison_of_2_bedroom_flats_under_2000_from/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Dublin/comments/ftjhuk/comparison_o... and https://www.gaffologist.com/flats.png https://www.gaffologist.com/flats.png Honestly I think airbnb and student housing are scapegoats to an extent, where the bigger problem is a council that tends to oppose new housing they don't control (aka stuff that isn't council flats, which most people don't qualify for), and the political imperative to keep housing expensive means keeping it scarce. Height restrictions in the absolute middle of the city are bizarre, and it's kind of shocking that we still have low-ish density suburban semi-d's next to Grafton Street. https://goo.gl/maps/MzB5DfXpqCZp9V5V6 https://goo.gl/maps/MzB5DfXpqCZp9V5V6 Edit: If I may risk a small plug - I was displeased with the UI of Irish housing sites and made www.gaffologist.com to address this.