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What are you basing these claims on? The only definitive research on these drugs for treatment: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095809920300

What are you basing these claims on? The only definitive research on these drugs for treatment: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095809920300631?via%3Dihub https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S209580992... does not point to a large success. In fact many of the trial patients ended up in ICU, and their condition worsened. A single doctor who advertised that he had 600 patients, which only a few were tested and verified to have COVID-19 is not enough to data to base starting broad treatment. If they do work then by all means lets start medicating, but sadly nothing points to these drugs being that effective.

giardini 6y ago
mrbrianhinton says >" A single doctor who advertised that he had 600 patients, which only a few were tested and verified to have COVID-19 is not enough to data to base starting broad treatment."< Zelenko wrote (above) that he had: "669 PATIENTS SEEN IN MY MONROE, NY practice with either test proven or clinically diagnosed corona infection" That "test proven" part is easy to miss. Zelenko's study is not a randomized controlled double-blind study but, at 699 patients so far, it is definitely statistically significant. It will be months, if not years, and quite possibly never before a controlled experiment occurs. Such an experiment could be deemed medically unethical because it withheld a highly-successful treatment from the control group: "More than one way to measure": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1069666/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1069666/
- mrbrianhinton 6y ago
  Yes. "test proven or clinically diagnosed corona infection". Clinically diagnosed means that they had symptoms that COULD be COVID-19. But unless they are tested it's not definitive evidence of anything, and further puts into question the treatment. Many of the symptoms are just like the common flu. I understand people jumping, and hoping that this is some cure. Likely if anything it helps treat the secondary illnesses caused by COVID-19, and perhaps helps improve recovery in that way.

giardini 6y ago

mrbrianhinton says >" A single doctor who advertised that he had 600 patients, which only a few were tested and verified to have COVID-19 is not enough to data to base starting broad treatment."< Zelenko wrote (above) that he had: "669 PATIENTS SEEN IN MY MONROE, NY practice with either test proven or clinically diagnosed corona infection" That "test proven" part is easy to miss. Zelenko's study is not a randomized controlled double-blind study but, at 699 patients so far, it is definitely statistically significant. It will be months, if not years, and quite possibly never before a controlled experiment occurs. Such an experiment could be deemed medically unethical because it withheld a highly-successful treatment from the control group: "More than one way to measure": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1069666/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1069666/

mrbrianhinton 6y ago
Yes. "test proven or clinically diagnosed corona infection". Clinically diagnosed means that they had symptoms that COULD be COVID-19. But unless they are tested it's not definitive evidence of anything, and further puts into question the treatment. Many of the symptoms are just like the common flu. I understand people jumping, and hoping that this is some cure. Likely if anything it helps treat the secondary illnesses caused by COVID-19, and perhaps helps improve recovery in that way.