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the difference between your hypothetical tweet and this article is that humble qualifier "I think". what I've seen hn (and startup culture in general) distort

the difference between your hypothetical tweet and this article is that humble qualifier "I think". what I've seen hn (and startup culture in general) distort is people's confidence in their own opinions. this is probably because it is repeated ad nauseum that you cannot start a successful startup without being an iconoclastic innovator. what isn't repeated ad nauseum is that you should save that kind of arrogance for your vc pitch rather than take it on as a mantle.

addicted44 6y ago
One of the first things I learnt in English 101 is that "I think" is redundant. Your writing something automatically implies that it's what you think. Unless you explicitly say something is a "fact" or quote a 3rd party.
- kranner 6y ago
  It is not always redundant. It can be used to politely signal that you may be wrong about something you are asserting, even when you are sure about it and everyone knows you are sure. This is especially helpful when you have visible authority over the other parties in the discussion.
- frosted-flakes 6y ago
  "I think" is not always redundant. It serves the same purpose as "in my opinion" or "I'm pretty sure", which is to temper the confidence of the statement or indicate an unverified intuition. Example: "Hey, where's the emergency toilet paper supply?" "I think it's in the cupboard under the stairs." I think (but am not sure!) that this use of "I think" is intuitively obvious to most native English speakers, especially when paired with voice tone. Obviously, if you're sure that a statement is true, then adding "I think" only weakens your point. Unskilled writers might not know to avoid it in (say) an essay, which may be why you heard that advice in school.
- throwqwerty 6y ago
  i meant exactly what i said: it's a humble qualifier . "I think" functions as an admission of fallibility. it transforms a certain claim into a proposition subject to change. its purpose is rhetorical rather than formal.
  - chipotle_coyote 6y ago
    Quoting the linked article: "I've thought for a long time that, for some types of apps, a Mac app would do as well as an iOS app." Isn't it pretty clear that when he's asserting that the relative downloads of NetNewsWire for iOS vs. macOS "confirms" that thought, he's (a) describing that as his thought, rather than trumpeting it as an immutable fact, and (b) both admitting that this is just one piece of data ("admittedly just one app") and confining even his hypothesis to "some types of apps"? tl;dr: I get what you're saying, but I think you're giving too ungenerous a reading in this specific case.
- eindiran 6y ago
  Linguists call "I think" when used this way a "stance marker"[0]. It's definitely not redundant: it reveals pragmatic information[1] about the context you're speaking in, namely by tempering your stance and revealing your level of confidence in the statement you're making. See this for example: https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/SC59wwEkK64tvQsDb9hC/full https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/SC59wwEkK64tvQsDb9hC/full [0] Here, "stance" means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(linguistics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(linguistics) [1] For more info, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatics
- chirau 6y ago
  Then let's hope you did not end at 101 Q: What's the best phone out there buddy? A1: The iPhone Super Max A2: I think it is Samsung S20, but there are several options out there A3: I think it is the iPhone Super Max, though i agree, there are plenty of competing options around. -- "I think" is very important in establishing/shaping context and clarifying the source of the opinion you are referring to.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  I was taught this too, but it was more of a guideline for students who got away with writing basically substandard essays in high school. It was like having to teach Javascript the Good Parts to kids that just started every sentence in a paragraph with ‘I think that ...’.

addicted44 6y ago

One of the first things I learnt in English 101 is that "I think" is redundant. Your writing something automatically implies that it's what you think. Unless you explicitly say something is a "fact" or quote a 3rd party.

kranner 6y ago
It is not always redundant. It can be used to politely signal that you may be wrong about something you are asserting, even when you are sure about it and everyone knows you are sure. This is especially helpful when you have visible authority over the other parties in the discussion.
frosted-flakes 6y ago
"I think" is not always redundant. It serves the same purpose as "in my opinion" or "I'm pretty sure", which is to temper the confidence of the statement or indicate an unverified intuition. Example: "Hey, where's the emergency toilet paper supply?" "I think it's in the cupboard under the stairs." I think (but am not sure!) that this use of "I think" is intuitively obvious to most native English speakers, especially when paired with voice tone. Obviously, if you're sure that a statement is true, then adding "I think" only weakens your point. Unskilled writers might not know to avoid it in (say) an essay, which may be why you heard that advice in school.
throwqwerty 6y ago
i meant exactly what i said: it's a humble qualifier . "I think" functions as an admission of fallibility. it transforms a certain claim into a proposition subject to change. its purpose is rhetorical rather than formal.
- chipotle_coyote 6y ago
  Quoting the linked article: "I've thought for a long time that, for some types of apps, a Mac app would do as well as an iOS app." Isn't it pretty clear that when he's asserting that the relative downloads of NetNewsWire for iOS vs. macOS "confirms" that thought, he's (a) describing that as his thought, rather than trumpeting it as an immutable fact, and (b) both admitting that this is just one piece of data ("admittedly just one app") and confining even his hypothesis to "some types of apps"? tl;dr: I get what you're saying, but I think you're giving too ungenerous a reading in this specific case.
eindiran 6y ago
Linguists call "I think" when used this way a "stance marker"[0]. It's definitely not redundant: it reveals pragmatic information[1] about the context you're speaking in, namely by tempering your stance and revealing your level of confidence in the statement you're making. See this for example: https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/SC59wwEkK64tvQsDb9hC/full https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/SC59wwEkK64tvQsDb9hC/full [0] Here, "stance" means: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(linguistics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stance_(linguistics) [1] For more info, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatics
chirau 6y ago
Then let's hope you did not end at 101 Q: What's the best phone out there buddy? A1: The iPhone Super Max A2: I think it is Samsung S20, but there are several options out there A3: I think it is the iPhone Super Max, though i agree, there are plenty of competing options around. -- "I think" is very important in establishing/shaping context and clarifying the source of the opinion you are referring to.
runawaybottle 6y ago
I was taught this too, but it was more of a guideline for students who got away with writing basically substandard essays in high school. It was like having to teach Javascript the Good Parts to kids that just started every sentence in a paragraph with ‘I think that ...’.