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How did they get your information for the daily call? Just curious. Is everyone required to submit contact information? Or did they already have the required co

How did they get your information for the daily call? Just curious. Is everyone required to submit contact information? Or did they already have the required contact info for daily health checkups?

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RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u 6y ago
When you enter, you're required to fill out a health declaration form, which asks for your contact info. IIRC, it's not cross-referenced with immigration database. Naturally, some were not filled out correctly, maliciously or not. Of the reported cases, police got involved to track down said persons, and they were fined depending on the severity of the infraction. I don't know if the form DB is now cross-checked with the immigration DB.
- bobbyd3 6y ago
  Thank you for the thoughtful reply.
- schee 6y ago
  Here's a quick concept graph https://imgur.com/a/XaQQ38Q https://imgur.com/a/XaQQ38Q
barkingcat 6y ago
There is a national registry - if you have a birth certificate, if you have a passport, if you file taxes, if you've used a government service (ever), if you visited dentist/doctor at any point in your life, they have linked those records. If you are visitor and if they need to, within a few hours of landing at an airport and arriving at your destination, you will get a phone call at your destination location/hotel, etc if the government needs to find you - Have you ever wondered why you fill out those landing / immigration cards that they give you on the plane? For the US and Canada, those are only formalities. For Taiwan, the cards get scanned in and then the authorities will call the number you put on that card to see if you're there or if you've checked into the hotel, for example. In regular times, this system is mostly used for things like catching overseas males dodging conscription for example, but the system is active already for times like these when it's critical to know where a person has gone after they leave the airport.
- bobbyd3 6y ago
  Thank you for the thoughtful reply. It definitely helps to fill my knowledge gaps due to limited travel outside the US.
- derefr 6y ago
  > the authorities will call the number you put on that card to see if you're there or if you've checked into the hotel So... what happens when you’re not there? I.e. if the government just can’t find you? Does this then translate to a police APB or something?
  - frankacter 6y ago
    "My phone, which is satellite-tracked by the Taiwan gov to enforce quarantine, ran out of battery at 7:30 AM. By 8:15, four different units called me. By 8:20, the police were knocking at my door." https://twitter.com/MiloHsieh/status/1241540231595044864?s=19 https://twitter.com/MiloHsieh/status/1241540231595044864?s=1...
    - derefr 6y ago
      I meant in the case of a visitor to the country who hasn’t purchased a local SIM yet, where the only contact information on the customs form is the hotel’s front-desk number.
      - hailwren 6y ago
        They'd follow you from the airport. You could maybe evade if you were a trained expert who looked like a local national, but otherwise they'd just check CCTV (Taipei is covered in it) and follow your trail. I've never taken public trans out of TPE, so they'd probably just call the cab company and track you down that way. Otherwise, they would check the public trans cameras. Also lack of local sim doesn't mean you aren't transmitting. It just means the towers are choosing not to provide you with service. A SIM's only purpose is to link your usage to a billing account and phone number.
x0ul 6y ago
My Taiwanese friends told me about this a few weeks ago, they said that the cell phone is issued by the government.
lifeformed 6y ago
I had to do quarantine since I briefly left the country. When I came back, there was a quarantine line for everyone, where we gave them our contact info. After that, they sprayed us down and we got into a special quarantine taxi. The taxi ensures we only go home. We're not allowed to go anywhere else except to make a bathroom stop. If that happens, they call a number and a special janitor comes over to disinfect the bathroom.
crispyambulance 6y ago
The information problem is one thing, but having enough staff on hand to make thousands of regular phone calls and then even being able to respond to excursions (or phone power-off) in a matter of minutes... that's unimaginable for those of us in the USA. Are these civil servants that have been re-purposed from other jobs? Are they telco company employees?

How did they get your information for the daily call? Just curious. Is everyone required to submit contact information? Or did they already have the required contact info for daily health checkups?

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RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u 6y ago

When you enter, you're required to fill out a health declaration form, which asks for your contact info. IIRC, it's not cross-referenced with immigration database. Naturally, some were not filled out correctly, maliciously or not. Of the reported cases, police got involved to track down said persons, and they were fined depending on the severity of the infraction. I don't know if the form DB is now cross-checked with the immigration DB.

bobbyd3 6y ago
Thank you for the thoughtful reply.
schee 6y ago
Here's a quick concept graph https://imgur.com/a/XaQQ38Q https://imgur.com/a/XaQQ38Q

barkingcat 6y ago

There is a national registry - if you have a birth certificate, if you have a passport, if you file taxes, if you've used a government service (ever), if you visited dentist/doctor at any point in your life, they have linked those records. If you are visitor and if they need to, within a few hours of landing at an airport and arriving at your destination, you will get a phone call at your destination location/hotel, etc if the government needs to find you - Have you ever wondered why you fill out those landing / immigration cards that they give you on the plane? For the US and Canada, those are only formalities. For Taiwan, the cards get scanned in and then the authorities will call the number you put on that card to see if you're there or if you've checked into the hotel, for example. In regular times, this system is mostly used for things like catching overseas males dodging conscription for example, but the system is active already for times like these when it's critical to know where a person has gone after they leave the airport.

bobbyd3 6y ago
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. It definitely helps to fill my knowledge gaps due to limited travel outside the US.
derefr 6y ago
> the authorities will call the number you put on that card to see if you're there or if you've checked into the hotel So... what happens when you’re not there? I.e. if the government just can’t find you? Does this then translate to a police APB or something?
- frankacter 6y ago
  "My phone, which is satellite-tracked by the Taiwan gov to enforce quarantine, ran out of battery at 7:30 AM. By 8:15, four different units called me. By 8:20, the police were knocking at my door." https://twitter.com/MiloHsieh/status/1241540231595044864?s=19 https://twitter.com/MiloHsieh/status/1241540231595044864?s=1...
  - derefr 6y ago
    I meant in the case of a visitor to the country who hasn’t purchased a local SIM yet, where the only contact information on the customs form is the hotel’s front-desk number.
    - hailwren 6y ago
      They'd follow you from the airport. You could maybe evade if you were a trained expert who looked like a local national, but otherwise they'd just check CCTV (Taipei is covered in it) and follow your trail. I've never taken public trans out of TPE, so they'd probably just call the cab company and track you down that way. Otherwise, they would check the public trans cameras. Also lack of local sim doesn't mean you aren't transmitting. It just means the towers are choosing not to provide you with service. A SIM's only purpose is to link your usage to a billing account and phone number.

x0ul 6y ago

My Taiwanese friends told me about this a few weeks ago, they said that the cell phone is issued by the government.

lifeformed 6y ago

I had to do quarantine since I briefly left the country. When I came back, there was a quarantine line for everyone, where we gave them our contact info. After that, they sprayed us down and we got into a special quarantine taxi. The taxi ensures we only go home. We're not allowed to go anywhere else except to make a bathroom stop. If that happens, they call a number and a special janitor comes over to disinfect the bathroom.

crispyambulance 6y ago

The information problem is one thing, but having enough staff on hand to make thousands of regular phone calls and then even being able to respond to excursions (or phone power-off) in a matter of minutes... that's unimaginable for those of us in the USA. Are these civil servants that have been re-purposed from other jobs? Are they telco company employees?