> When was the last time you heard of a programming language discussed in terms of discoverability, succinctness, relevance, let alone beauty? I mean, fairly o

> When was the last time you heard of a programming language discussed in terms of discoverability, succinctness, relevance, let alone beauty? I mean, fairly often throughout the years. Particularly in communities for lisps, ruby, perl, python, C. More common 5-10 years back perhaps. Relevance is a fairly common topic across the board. Discoverability is maybe the least common topic here, and one that's a pretty interesting one for PL design imo. I haven't seen too many blog posts about these things lately, but they're frequent enough discussions in personal circles and in mailing lists/chats that this question seemed odd to me.