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Routed Gothic Font
- Dramatize 7y agoI love the feel of this font.
- exmadscientist 7y agoThank you for posting this! I've been looking off and on for this for ages and ages. Trivial factoid: my understanding is that the Gorton pantograph fonts came first, and that the Leroy lettering sets were manufactured using the Gorton fonts. But I don't have a good source for that, so I could be completely wrong.
- rjsw 7y agoI had not heard of those brands, I had Rotring [1] lettering stencils to match some of their pens. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotring https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotring
- _jal 7y agoI'm pleased to see he implemented the vital U+1F4A9 code point.
- dickeytk 7y ago[bottom of https://webonastick.com/fonts/routed-gothic/unicode-coverage.html https://webonastick.com/fonts/routed-gothic/unicode-coverage...]
- cogburnd02 7y agoNow it needs U+0CA0.... https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0ca0/index.htm https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/0ca0/index.htm
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- qwerty456127 7y agoIt's not ugly, it's beautiful.
- spectramax 7y agoAt the risk of sounding "out of touch with reality" and "retro nostalgic", I strongly believe that a lot of clean, sterile work took place in the 1965-1985 era. From UNIX to SR-71, everything mankind did in the technical space was minimal, purposeful, clean, legible, durable, maintainable, modular and many other adjectives that would compound on the idea of creating a truly better product or service. Marketing took a backseat, science and data mattered and advertisement was truthful. Today's world seems broken, fragile, noisy and unmaintained. May be that humanity needs to unwind, rewind back a couple of decades and try again. If you play the scenario of human evolution multiple times, I am sure a large scale system such as global society would end up in a different state... every time. Reminds me of the story that Kyoto, Japan didn't get ruined because one of the military commanders in charge of the nuclear bomb drop locations, had a soft spot for Kyoto... and instead chose Nagasaki and Hiroshima. [1] If we were to replay human progress, I want us to go back to that era and relive the engineering life. Must have been amazing to work in a technical field in the 70's and 80's. Now we have AI and Quantum and all these fucking buzzwords, largely perpetuated by people who have no clue - marketing and PR folks. [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/08/hiroshima-nagasaki-atomic-bomb-anniversary/400448/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/08/hi...
- etaioinshrdlu 7y agoI learned to write in this style by hand in an engineering graphics / drafting class in college. I too find the high concentration of upper case fonts, especially Courier New, in engineering and especially EE, to be kind of relaxing and pretty.
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- microcolonel 7y agoAn OpenType tabular numbers feature would be a nice addition, for numbers in tables. I think it would mostly be a matter of adding a hook to the 1 like other similarly-proportioned industrial fonts.
- kccqzy 7y agoWhy does it implement just a few of the superscripts, but not all?
- maxerickson 7y ago1, 2 and 3 are in the Latin 1 block, 0,4-9 are at U+2070-U+2079.
- reaperducer 7y agoWow, this is triggering some kind of memory cascade in the back of my brain that I simply cannot place. I know this font, but I really can't say from where. The closest guesses I can come up with is the Commodore 64 Programmers Reference Guide, or maybe an old terminal or computer magazine. But I could easily be wrong. Either way, I love it.
- blattimwind 7y agoThis kind of writing seems to be the equivalent of Normschrift in the US; it's all over schematics from the 60s and 70s (sometimes even the 80s). Just like Normschrift written by craftsmen it looks super-regular, almost like computer set type, except it has tiny variations between draftsmen, making it clear it is actually written by hand. (Some people use templates to write Normschrift; a looked down upon practice, generally not permissible in exams).
- aaronharder 7y agoPerhaps Forrest Mims of Radio Shack Engineer's Notebook fame? https://hackaday.com/2017/01/18/forrest-mims-radio-shack-and-the-notebooks-that-launched-a-thousand-careers/ https://hackaday.com/2017/01/18/forrest-mims-radio-shack-and...
- reaperducer 7y agoWow. I think that might be it!
- bitwize 7y agoTo me it looks like the Simplex font from AutoCAD (which I believe was based on a selection of characters from Hershey).
- hlieberman 7y agoFor a newer font in this vein, I'd look at B612, a font designed in cooperation with Airbus specifically for visibility inside cockpits: https://github.com/polarsys/b612/blob/master/docs/B612-Leaflet.pdf https://github.com/polarsys/b612/blob/master/docs/B612-Leafl...
- Igelau 7y agoToo bad the () and the [] look so much alike in the monospaced version.
- userbinator 7y ago...and for an older font, look at Futura and its variants --- whose users in aerospace included Boeing and NASA.
- mhd 7y agoAnd which might be known for a few as the main body font of the AD&D first edition books -- not the best use case for it.
- cyphar 7y agoI'm also quite surprised that the symbols for "O" (capital O) and "0" (zero) are very similar, even in the monospace version of B612.
- randomcarbloke 7y agoCyphar, two years ago you posted: "Well, there is a port of glibc to UEFI, so one could very easily "boot into Emacs". Strangely I've not seen anyone do this." Can you hook me up with that link :) Cheers.
- FullyFunctional 7y agoVery off-topic but hilarious. Back to topic: inability to distinguish O and 0 seems pretty terrifying for avionics. Related, I love SF Mono, but it's so hard to read 0000080 in small fonts (try it).
- chewxy 7y agoI like how under unicode coverage, the one emoji that is covered is the poop emoji. Human universals I guess.
- masswerk 7y agoI've been on the look for this for a long time. Thanks!
- Waterluvian 7y agoRelated to this one, has anyone identified an equivalent font for what was used in the Apollo CSM and LM cockpits?
- urxvtcd 7y agoWasn't this just Futura?
- Waterluvian 7y agoOh hey it might have been. I dunno how I missed that. Thanks!
- cellular 7y agoBrick Hect would be proud.
- Gracana 7y agoKiCAD 6's font support can't come soon enough!
- uasm 7y ago> "I created this font by purchasing a Leroy Lettering set, using Inkscape to trace the scanned letterforms of one of its templates, and some FontForge Python scripting." How does this work from a copyright/legal perspective?
- bruckie 7y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protection_of_typefaces#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_protecti...: "Typefaces cannot be protected by copyright in the United States". (Note that fonts--e.g. a .ttf or .otf file--can, though.) Other jurisdictions do provide protection for the abstract shapes represented by typefaces.
- runxel 7y agoGuess why so many Helvetica impersonations/clones exist: The thing is called "tracing" and quite common. The actual code (which means the ttf/otf) is protected under copyright. The shape of a letter isn't and can't be by any form of IP. So: You're not allowed to redistribute the font file but creating your own font which just happens to look alike is perfectly fine.
- uasm 7y agoThanks. So, a given "specification" (how a font looks to the human eye) can have many different "implementations" (ie. TTF files). The specific "implementations" themselves can be copyrighted, but somehow not the "specifications"? If so... assume one TTF file which is copyrighted, pay-per-use license. Assume another TTF file, which is open-source, free to use and redistribute. The files both implement the "Helvetica" specification, rendering the same letters to the human eye. How "different" must the free implementation be from the paid one, for it to not be considered an infringement?
- runxel 7y agoSince the shapes afaik can't be copyrighted: Your selfdrawn font has totally the right to look the same. They probably won't however, since you might be able to copy the shape, but for being displayed on screen you need a process called "hinting". That is the term for making pixels out of the shapes. Professional fonts are hinted by hand, making it look neat even in small sizes. There is auto-hinting, but it only gets you so far.
- gelo 7y agoIt may be the size on the page, or glyph rendering artefact but this font doesnt look... consistent. Dont get me wrong the font is brilliant, however atleast for me there are some points at which the rendered glyphs are over cut. Another way id describe this is the antialiasing is not consistent. Its like layering the same text on top of the other multiple times.
- Sharlin 7y agoThe author mentions that there’s no hinting, which may explain what you’re seeing.
- ginko 7y agoSort of related, there's DIN 6776, a German standardized font used for technical drawings: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normschrift https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normschrift https://www.typografie.info/3/uploads/99b804cee64ef8c64ad900e80d7cf1a9.jpg https://www.typografie.info/3/uploads/99b804cee64ef8c64ad900... I had to learn that one in drafting class in middle school.
- app4soft 7y agoDIN standards are local derivatives of ISO standards. There are few widely used "Technical lettering"[0] standards: «ISO 3098»(EU/International), «ASME Y14.5»(US) and «GOST 2.304»(ex-USSR). There are few FLOSS fonts which cover «ISO 3098»[1,2,3], «ASME Y14.5»[3,4,5] and «GOST 2.304»[6,7,8] technical lettering standards. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_lettering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_lettering [1] https://github.com/hikikomori82/osifont https://github.com/hikikomori82/osifont [2] http://peter-wiegel.de/TGL.html http://peter-wiegel.de/TGL.html [3] http://peter-wiegel.de/TGL_0-16.html http://peter-wiegel.de/TGL_0-16.html [4] https://www.fontspace.com/micronus https://www.fontspace.com/micronus [5] https://cstools.asme.org/csconnect/CommitteePages.cfm?Committee=C64041150&Action=40068 https://cstools.asme.org/csconnect/CommitteePages.cfm?Commit... [6] https://bitbucket.org/fat_angel/opengostfont/ https://bitbucket.org/fat_angel/opengostfont/ [7] https://github.com/Metrolog/Font.GOST2.304-81 https://github.com/Metrolog/Font.GOST2.304-81 [8] https://github.com/MishkinIN/Font_GOST_2.304 https://github.com/MishkinIN/Font_GOST_2.304
- ginko 7y agoSeems like ISO 3098 is significantly newer than DIN 6776, so it's the ISO standard that's derivative of the DIN one.
- app4soft 7y agoWell, you are partially right, because most of "DIN" standards already replaced by "ISO". But there are still many "DIN" standards that now replaced by "DIN EN ISO", e.g. German (local) version of «ISO 3098» (which replace «DIN 6776») is «DIN EN ISO 3098».[0] [0] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DIN_standards#DIN_6000_to_DIN_6999
- dim13 7y agoWould love it in monospace variant.
- jccalhoun 7y agoIf people aren’t familiar with the Leroy Lettering system here is a video of it: https://youtu.be/GZRvQDMBEOE https://youtu.be/GZRvQDMBEOE This font was also used by EC Comics (their comics included Tales From the Crypt). Here is another font based on that which is more fuzzy: https://caseyburns.com/artwork/font-design/ https://caseyburns.com/artwork/font-design/
- sgt 7y agoThis is pretty much the same as Comic Sans, except Comic Sans is a bit more curvy and fun. Routed Gothic is what Comic Sans should have been.
- Pinus 7y agoYou should check out Comic Neue. http://comicneue.com/ http://comicneue.com/