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Let's start a css-less tech trend, shall we? :)

by Vesuvium 7y ago

strbean 7y ago
All my websites are built with Unity targeting WebGL! /s
- PopeDotNinja 7y ago
  What is this black magic? Serious question.
  - com2kid 7y ago
    Unity and WebGL is pretty common now days. You'll find a good chunk of the games at https://itch.io/games/html5 https://itch.io/games/html5 use exactly that.
  - strbean 7y ago
    Unity supports builds targeting WebGL and WASM. Last time I stumbled on an "io game" built this way, the lack of WASM debugging tools made it very hard to hack at the game :(
arminiusreturns 7y ago
I like CSS, can we start with JS first instead?
- deleted 7y ago
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- AdmiralGinge 7y ago
  I wonder if anyone's tried to write a language primarily for manipulating the DOM that's less... "quirky" than JavaScript? With WebAssembly being fairly well supported these days I suppose someone with a background in language design could write an interpreter in C for such a domain-specific language and target WASM. Of course, people would say "what's the point" when JS is a thing and widely supported. I wonder if there'd be a) a compelling improvement in performance and b) a compelling improvement in reliability if we just wholesale replaced it based on lessons learned? I reckon even just keeping JS and eliminating implicit coercions would be a huge improvement (as well as maybe automatic semicolon insertion) and reduce the debugging times considerably.
  - sangnoir 7y ago
    > I wonder if anyone's tried to write a language primarily for manipulating the DOM that's less... "quirky" than JavaScript? I don't know about "less quirky", but Microsoft tried with VBScript. Google tried with Dart. Initially, Dart meant to be interpreted by the browser (not transpiled to JS). I'm sure there might have been similar, smaller projects, but Javascript-in-the-browser has momentum that's hard to beat.
  - dreamcompiler 7y ago
    WASM cannot access the DOM. Not yet, anyway. I find this ridiculous, but that's the situation.
  - PopeDotNinja 7y ago
    Does Elm count?
- justincredible 7y ago
  Eradicating JS would probably solve our climate crisis.
Morgawr 7y ago
https://morg.systems/ https://morg.systems/ I'm trying my best :D
- earenndil 7y ago
  <link rel='stylesheet' href='res/lettercrap.css' /> <link rel='stylesheet' href='res/style.css' /> ;o

Let's start a css-less tech trend, shall we? :)

strbean 7y ago

All my websites are built with Unity targeting WebGL! /s

PopeDotNinja 7y ago
What is this black magic? Serious question.
- com2kid 7y ago
  Unity and WebGL is pretty common now days. You'll find a good chunk of the games at https://itch.io/games/html5 https://itch.io/games/html5 use exactly that.
- strbean 7y ago
  Unity supports builds targeting WebGL and WASM. Last time I stumbled on an "io game" built this way, the lack of WASM debugging tools made it very hard to hack at the game :(

arminiusreturns 7y ago

I like CSS, can we start with JS first instead?

deleted 7y ago
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AdmiralGinge 7y ago
I wonder if anyone's tried to write a language primarily for manipulating the DOM that's less... "quirky" than JavaScript? With WebAssembly being fairly well supported these days I suppose someone with a background in language design could write an interpreter in C for such a domain-specific language and target WASM. Of course, people would say "what's the point" when JS is a thing and widely supported. I wonder if there'd be a) a compelling improvement in performance and b) a compelling improvement in reliability if we just wholesale replaced it based on lessons learned? I reckon even just keeping JS and eliminating implicit coercions would be a huge improvement (as well as maybe automatic semicolon insertion) and reduce the debugging times considerably.
- sangnoir 7y ago
  > I wonder if anyone's tried to write a language primarily for manipulating the DOM that's less... "quirky" than JavaScript? I don't know about "less quirky", but Microsoft tried with VBScript. Google tried with Dart. Initially, Dart meant to be interpreted by the browser (not transpiled to JS). I'm sure there might have been similar, smaller projects, but Javascript-in-the-browser has momentum that's hard to beat.
- dreamcompiler 7y ago
  WASM cannot access the DOM. Not yet, anyway. I find this ridiculous, but that's the situation.
- PopeDotNinja 7y ago
  Does Elm count?
justincredible 7y ago
Eradicating JS would probably solve our climate crisis.

Morgawr 7y ago

https://morg.systems/ https://morg.systems/ I'm trying my best :D

earenndil 7y ago
<link rel='stylesheet' href='res/lettercrap.css' /> <link rel='stylesheet' href='res/style.css' /> ;o