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Reaper and Live have spoiled me. I tried to like Ardour, and it would be great if it's all I had, but it has too many rough edges. LMMS is good though. I must

Reaper and Live have spoiled me. I tried to like Ardour, and it would be great if it's all I had, but it has too many rough edges. LMMS is good though. I must have made 200+ songs in it before switching to Reaper. I could get by with LMMS and the included synths if I had to. It makes me wish Reaper supported LV2.

giancarlostoro 7y ago
I love LMMS cause it's like FL Studio. I used to use FL Studio (pirated when I was a teenager) to make rap beats and even once a dubstep beat, though it crashed and I lost all my progress.... LMMS is awesome cause it's free so I can just experiment with it. I havent found the time to make some serious tracks though. Also where do you get audio samples for LMMS? This is mostly my dilemma.
- vibrafox 7y ago
  The best percussion I've ever had came from TAL-NoiseMaker. There's a Linux port. https://www.kvraudio.com/product/tal-noisemaker-by-togu-audio-line https://www.kvraudio.com/product/tal-noisemaker-by-togu-audi... LMMS also has its own percussion synth. https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Kicker https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Kicker As for samples, Echo Sound Works sends out occasional freebie packs on their newsletter. Their samples are usually good. https://www.echosoundworks.com/free-downloads https://www.echosoundworks.com/free-downloads Black Octopus Sound has a huge sampler pack that you can use in commercial stuff. https://blackoctopus-sound.com/free-downloads/ https://blackoctopus-sound.com/free-downloads/ Also keep an eye out for SFX packs around GDC (Game Developers Conference). Sonniss publishes one every year. You can probably find the (legit, official) torrents for past years.
  - giancarlostoro 7y ago
    This is wonderful, thanks! I had no idea GDC gave out free assets!
    - vibrafox 7y ago
      The company gives out free assets around GDC as promo, but I don't think it's from GDC.
hfdh434535 7y ago
I would agree, re: rough edges, if we were talking about Ardour 2 or 3, which both missed some important features and weren't as stable as I'd like. But in the last few years, ardour has improved. I do most of my work in it now. Would recommend it to anyone who wants a FLOSS DAW and isn't too dependent on mental models from other audio software. If anything, LMMS has the rough edges. The interface lacks polish and consistency. There are some awkward things about using it (why do I have to make a blank bar before I copy and paste a bar into it?). And I've noticed some glitchy behavior - for instance, I just made a ZynAddSubFX patch that sounded different as a plugin in LMMS than when I used it in Zyn's own application. Strange behavior like that, but fortunately it's rare. But all that considered, LMMS is still great, and I appreciate the work it's authors put into it. I don't think of it as a daw; more of a sequencer. But if your music is 100% digital synths and samples, it serves all your needs. Right now I'm using: LMMS (sequencer), Ardour (daw), JAMin (mastering suite), and Audacity (swiss army knife). I like Reaper. I've used ableton live many times, and I still don't get it - I guess the workflow is optimized for live mixing? I found it less than ideal for recording in a studio.
- vibrafox 7y ago
  >> "Would recommend it to anyone who wants a FLOSS DAW and isn't too dependent on mental models from other audio software." I recommend against this kind of framing. It comes off as judgmental. My mental models form based on my needs and experience. They're just as valid as your mental models, needs, and experience. Your way of seeing my perspective leads to faulty assumptions about my experience and models. For example... >> "I would agree, re: rough edges, if we were talking about Ardour 2 or 3, which both missed some important features and weren't as stable as I'd like. But in the last few years, ardour has improved. I do most of my work in it now." I tried 5 from Mint's repos. Yesterday. I try every version to see if it'll work for me. Ardour continues to be critically lacking for me, based on my needs. Take a step back any time you want to assume someone's view is based on not knowing something you know. It's much more likely you don't know what they know.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 7y ago
    > My mental models form based on my needs and experience Except that the workflow for e.g. Live or FL Studio or Bitwig is entirely different from the workflow for e.g. ProTools or Logic or Ardour. So the extent that your needs and experience dictate a Live-style workflow, then sure, you're right. But if you don't actually know what you're doing or alternatively actually need the linear-timeline recording model of PT/Ardour, then there's no judgement here, just a correct observation.

giancarlostoro 7y ago

I love LMMS cause it's like FL Studio. I used to use FL Studio (pirated when I was a teenager) to make rap beats and even once a dubstep beat, though it crashed and I lost all my progress.... LMMS is awesome cause it's free so I can just experiment with it. I havent found the time to make some serious tracks though. Also where do you get audio samples for LMMS? This is mostly my dilemma.

vibrafox 7y ago
The best percussion I've ever had came from TAL-NoiseMaker. There's a Linux port. https://www.kvraudio.com/product/tal-noisemaker-by-togu-audio-line https://www.kvraudio.com/product/tal-noisemaker-by-togu-audi... LMMS also has its own percussion synth. https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Kicker https://lmms.io/wiki/index.php?title=Kicker As for samples, Echo Sound Works sends out occasional freebie packs on their newsletter. Their samples are usually good. https://www.echosoundworks.com/free-downloads https://www.echosoundworks.com/free-downloads Black Octopus Sound has a huge sampler pack that you can use in commercial stuff. https://blackoctopus-sound.com/free-downloads/ https://blackoctopus-sound.com/free-downloads/ Also keep an eye out for SFX packs around GDC (Game Developers Conference). Sonniss publishes one every year. You can probably find the (legit, official) torrents for past years.
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  This is wonderful, thanks! I had no idea GDC gave out free assets!
  - vibrafox 7y ago
    The company gives out free assets around GDC as promo, but I don't think it's from GDC.

hfdh434535 7y ago

I would agree, re: rough edges, if we were talking about Ardour 2 or 3, which both missed some important features and weren't as stable as I'd like. But in the last few years, ardour has improved. I do most of my work in it now. Would recommend it to anyone who wants a FLOSS DAW and isn't too dependent on mental models from other audio software. If anything, LMMS has the rough edges. The interface lacks polish and consistency. There are some awkward things about using it (why do I have to make a blank bar before I copy and paste a bar into it?). And I've noticed some glitchy behavior - for instance, I just made a ZynAddSubFX patch that sounded different as a plugin in LMMS than when I used it in Zyn's own application. Strange behavior like that, but fortunately it's rare. But all that considered, LMMS is still great, and I appreciate the work it's authors put into it. I don't think of it as a daw; more of a sequencer. But if your music is 100% digital synths and samples, it serves all your needs. Right now I'm using: LMMS (sequencer), Ardour (daw), JAMin (mastering suite), and Audacity (swiss army knife). I like Reaper. I've used ableton live many times, and I still don't get it - I guess the workflow is optimized for live mixing? I found it less than ideal for recording in a studio.

vibrafox 7y ago
>> "Would recommend it to anyone who wants a FLOSS DAW and isn't too dependent on mental models from other audio software." I recommend against this kind of framing. It comes off as judgmental. My mental models form based on my needs and experience. They're just as valid as your mental models, needs, and experience. Your way of seeing my perspective leads to faulty assumptions about my experience and models. For example... >> "I would agree, re: rough edges, if we were talking about Ardour 2 or 3, which both missed some important features and weren't as stable as I'd like. But in the last few years, ardour has improved. I do most of my work in it now." I tried 5 from Mint's repos. Yesterday. I try every version to see if it'll work for me. Ardour continues to be critically lacking for me, based on my needs. Take a step back any time you want to assume someone's view is based on not knowing something you know. It's much more likely you don't know what they know.
- PaulDavisThe1st 7y ago
  > My mental models form based on my needs and experience Except that the workflow for e.g. Live or FL Studio or Bitwig is entirely different from the workflow for e.g. ProTools or Logic or Ardour. So the extent that your needs and experience dictate a Live-style workflow, then sure, you're right. But if you don't actually know what you're doing or alternatively actually need the linear-timeline recording model of PT/Ardour, then there's no judgement here, just a correct observation.