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tldr, don't be lazy, fail to network, and insecure in your abilities to the point where you stop trying. Nothing specific to Academia there.

by haecib 16y ago

apl 16y ago
> Nothing specific to Academia there. I disagree. Many highly skilled professions (software development, engineering, medicine) offer a sustainable career path for people who don't have the drive, ambition, focus, whatever to play at the top of their respective game. For instance, it's entirely possible to make a decent living as a mid-level engineer who puts in 40 hours a week for 40 years. Similarly, you can reconcile life and job as a doctor by shunning the race to the top and becoming a GP with absolutely acceptable salary. (This is all written from a German/British background -- things might be different in the US, but the point still stands.) In academia, there's no such thing. It's up or out. Prestigious professorships and research positions pay very well, but there's nothing between that and drowning in a sea of mediocre scientists fighting for a very limited number of government grants and internal funding. In most comparable professions, this woman could have simply accepted her low-trajectory-career and continued while emphasizing kids and private life. As a scientist, you get fired.
- arethuza 16y ago
  From what I hear in the UK if you are something like a good heart surgeon you can pretty much name your conditions - if you are a mother with school age kids that might be to only work two days a week. And why not! I think if I was being operated on I might prefer a rested and unstressed surgeon to one who is working 80 hours a week...
WWWWH 16y ago
Is it not a little off to claim tl;dr and then call her lazy?
- Muzza 16y ago
  It's entirely possible for both the author and haecib to be lazy. (I personally don't think the author came off as particularly lazy, though.)
  - haecib 16y ago
    I guess by lazy I mean, as the author put it, "I didn't work hard enough..." And yes, it is entirely possible that I am lazy as well.
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- haecib 16y ago
  I read the entire article, but if the act of summarization is lazy by definition, then yes. But I don't think it is... :)

tldr, don't be lazy, fail to network, and insecure in your abilities to the point where you stop trying. Nothing specific to Academia there.

by haecib 16y ago

tldr, don't be lazy, fail to network, and insecure in your abilities to the point where you stop trying. Nothing specific to Academia there.

apl 16y ago

> Nothing specific to Academia there. I disagree. Many highly skilled professions (software development, engineering, medicine) offer a sustainable career path for people who don't have the drive, ambition, focus, whatever to play at the top of their respective game. For instance, it's entirely possible to make a decent living as a mid-level engineer who puts in 40 hours a week for 40 years. Similarly, you can reconcile life and job as a doctor by shunning the race to the top and becoming a GP with absolutely acceptable salary. (This is all written from a German/British background -- things might be different in the US, but the point still stands.) In academia, there's no such thing. It's up or out. Prestigious professorships and research positions pay very well, but there's nothing between that and drowning in a sea of mediocre scientists fighting for a very limited number of government grants and internal funding. In most comparable professions, this woman could have simply accepted her low-trajectory-career and continued while emphasizing kids and private life. As a scientist, you get fired.

arethuza 16y ago
From what I hear in the UK if you are something like a good heart surgeon you can pretty much name your conditions - if you are a mother with school age kids that might be to only work two days a week. And why not! I think if I was being operated on I might prefer a rested and unstressed surgeon to one who is working 80 hours a week...

WWWWH 16y ago

Is it not a little off to claim tl;dr and then call her lazy?

Muzza 16y ago
It's entirely possible for both the author and haecib to be lazy. (I personally don't think the author came off as particularly lazy, though.)
- haecib 16y ago
  I guess by lazy I mean, as the author put it, "I didn't work hard enough..." And yes, it is entirely possible that I am lazy as well.
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haecib 16y ago
I read the entire article, but if the act of summarization is lazy by definition, then yes. But I don't think it is... :)