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Are farm workers excluded because it's easier? Wouldn't matter I suppose just curious.

• css 7y ago
  > obtaining accurate farming employment numbers is complicated by: - Self-employment - Unpaid family employment - Part-time or hobby farmers - Other partnerships https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2019/july/nonfarm-payrolls-why-farmers-not-included https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2019/july/nonfarm-payr...
  • vkou 7y ago
    Not to mention that a lot of farming is done by undocumented workers, who don't necessarily appear on payrolls. It's hard to find people to do hard, dangerous, exhausting work for so little pay.
  • Ohn0 7y ago
    Isn't the true for other industries as well though, not just farming?
    • jrumbut 7y ago
      That is likely true, though there are some special, farm only ways to be employed such as the H-2A Visa of which there were 2.4 million in 2018 if I'm reading this right: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-labor/#h2a https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm-economy/farm-labor/#h2a. My guess is the biggest reason that non-farm labor is tracked is because someone decades ago decided to do so and now if we want to do longitudinal comparisons we need to track the same thing. It's an interesting enough statistic since there are areas that are very heavily agricultural and areas with very few farms and probably not as much mixing between the two compared to (for instance) manufacturing and clerical jobs which may happen in the same building.
• creaghpatr 7y ago
  Farm vs. Non-farm is a pretty common distinction when talking about labor markets if I'm not mistaken.
• sb057 7y ago
  In addition to other mentioned reasons, farm work is also extremely seasonal.