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How exactly did you come to the conclusion that his trial was fair? The only coverage I've seen of the trial, which has been remarkably quiet, alleges extreme U

How exactly did you come to the conclusion that his trial was fair? The only coverage I've seen of the trial, which has been remarkably quiet, alleges extreme US interference: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-c... Jullian's father is going around the world telling people how brutally corrupt this all is, and how he fears for his son's life. The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture agrees with him: https://medium.com/@njmelzer/demasking-the-torture-of-julian-assange-b252ffdcb768 https://medium.com/@njmelzer/demasking-the-torture-of-julian....

spzb 7y ago
It was an open and shut case. He was bailed to appear in court. He didn’t appear in court but hid for several years out of the court’s jurisdiction.
- iblamedang 7y ago
  It was for very clear reasons that he avoided bail; because he didn’t want to get extradited - which all along the US and UK called a conspiracy theory, and which then happened the minute a more bribable Ecuadorian government got in. What’s your opinion on the Spanish company putting streaming cameras in the women’s bathroom to spy on his lawyers conversations? Is that supposed to have no connection to this “open and shut” case?
NovemberWhiskey 7y ago
The top link, which is the only one that addresses court proceedings, is nothing to do with his bail jumping case at all - it's about the US extradition. Just from a timeline perspective this is obvious: his conviction was back in May; this article is from October.
- nicehat 7y ago
  The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see. > The UK remains in violation of a United Nations decision from 2016 that Mr. Assange is being subjected to Arbitrary Detention [1]. The UK government refuses to release most of its internal communications relating to Mr. Assange saying that to do so would compromise the United Kingdom’s national security and diplomatic relations. [1] https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html
  - NovemberWhiskey 7y ago
    >The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see. Should we assume from the sudden change in topic that you now agree that the trial for an offense under the UK's Bail Act was, in fact, fair (or at the very least that there doesn't seem to be any evidence to the contrary)? FYI UNGWAD is not a judicial body; its opinions (not decisions) have no binding force whatsoever.
    - nicehat 7y ago
      Why on earth would I assume that one trial was fair, when the other was extraordinarily suspect? Why would I assume it's fair when he's already been tortured for years by solitary confinement, and often refused access to counsel? Not to mention, had spurious cases taken against him; and multiple, provably false, coordinated and widespread media smears in the UK and US? FYI, I never claimed anything about binding force - but if the UN's top torture opinion guy says Assange is being tortured, and his dad says he's being tortured, and he looks like a man slowly dying every time he's allowed out to speak, which is basically never - I'm more than a little suspicious.
      - foldr 7y ago
        It was a public trial, so you don't have to "assume" anything about how fair it was. In any case, it would be absurd to suggest that he wasn't guilty of skipping bail, so it's difficult to see how there could have been anything significantly unfair about the trial.
multjoy 7y ago
The actual sentencing remarks: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/sentencing-remarks-assange-010519.pdf https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/sentenci...

spzb 7y ago

It was an open and shut case. He was bailed to appear in court. He didn’t appear in court but hid for several years out of the court’s jurisdiction.

iblamedang 7y ago
It was for very clear reasons that he avoided bail; because he didn’t want to get extradited - which all along the US and UK called a conspiracy theory, and which then happened the minute a more bribable Ecuadorian government got in. What’s your opinion on the Spanish company putting streaming cameras in the women’s bathroom to spy on his lawyers conversations? Is that supposed to have no connection to this “open and shut” case?

NovemberWhiskey 7y ago

The top link, which is the only one that addresses court proceedings, is nothing to do with his bail jumping case at all - it's about the US extradition. Just from a timeline perspective this is obvious: his conviction was back in May; this article is from October.

nicehat 7y ago
The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see. > The UK remains in violation of a United Nations decision from 2016 that Mr. Assange is being subjected to Arbitrary Detention [1]. The UK government refuses to release most of its internal communications relating to Mr. Assange saying that to do so would compromise the United Kingdom’s national security and diplomatic relations. [1] https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html https://justice4assange.com/UN-Working-Group-Decision.html
- NovemberWhiskey 7y ago
  >The US extradition which was categorically denied for years? Ah, I see. Should we assume from the sudden change in topic that you now agree that the trial for an offense under the UK's Bail Act was, in fact, fair (or at the very least that there doesn't seem to be any evidence to the contrary)? FYI UNGWAD is not a judicial body; its opinions (not decisions) have no binding force whatsoever.
  - nicehat 7y ago
    Why on earth would I assume that one trial was fair, when the other was extraordinarily suspect? Why would I assume it's fair when he's already been tortured for years by solitary confinement, and often refused access to counsel? Not to mention, had spurious cases taken against him; and multiple, provably false, coordinated and widespread media smears in the UK and US? FYI, I never claimed anything about binding force - but if the UN's top torture opinion guy says Assange is being tortured, and his dad says he's being tortured, and he looks like a man slowly dying every time he's allowed out to speak, which is basically never - I'm more than a little suspicious.
    - foldr 7y ago
      It was a public trial, so you don't have to "assume" anything about how fair it was. In any case, it would be absurd to suggest that he wasn't guilty of skipping bail, so it's difficult to see how there could have been anything significantly unfair about the trial.

multjoy 7y ago

The actual sentencing remarks: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/sentencing-remarks-assange-010519.pdf https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/sentenci...