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In this case, there is no option. You either work contractor or don't work. This law is in place to establish this option of "better job". You wouldn't have an

In this case, there is no option. You either work contractor or don't work. This law is in place to establish this option of "better job". You wouldn't have an option without it.

Matticus_Rex 7y ago
No, that's the thing. It's not turning 300 contractor positions into 300 better jobs. It's turning 300 contractor positions into a very small number of better jobs (not all of which will actually go to those contractors), leaving a lot more people unemployed.
- sukilot 7y ago
  > California contractors can apply for a full-time or part-time position in California > A writer named Rebecca Lawson, who covered the NBA's Dallas Mavericks from San Diego, AB5 created good jobs in CA at the expense of worse jobs outside of CA. Seems like a win for the people of CA.
  - Kylekramer 7y ago
    Sounds like a pretty big loss for Rebecca Lawson, person of CA.
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  US unemployment is the lowest it’s been in 50 years and wages are starting to rise due to employers desperate for labor. This is the best time for labor policies that cause churn to be established.
  - Matticus_Rex 7y ago
    I think it's the least damaging time for those policies to be established, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing to do.
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- vic20forever 7y ago
  ...and those unemployed people will find better jobs with other companies, since all California companies are required to comply with the new law, and the collective amount of work performed by California companies (and thus the collective number of workers required to do this work) is not affected by the new law.
  - SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
    Why wouldn't the collective amount of work performed by California companies be affected? It seems very likely that consolidating a lot of contractors into a few employees would reduce the total number of working hours needed.
  - Matticus_Rex 7y ago
    The collective amount of work performed by California companies is absolutely affected by the new law, because it's not a constant. The amount of work a company has to do is affected by the cost of performance. If costs go up, a lot of work is no longer affordable to complete, so that work doesn't happen.
  - larrywright 7y ago
    Except that there are 49 other states that don’t have meddlesome legislation like this.

In this case, there is no option. You either work contractor or don't work. This law is in place to establish this option of "better job". You wouldn't have an option without it.

Matticus_Rex 7y ago

No, that's the thing. It's not turning 300 contractor positions into 300 better jobs. It's turning 300 contractor positions into a very small number of better jobs (not all of which will actually go to those contractors), leaving a lot more people unemployed.

sukilot 7y ago
> California contractors can apply for a full-time or part-time position in California > A writer named Rebecca Lawson, who covered the NBA's Dallas Mavericks from San Diego, AB5 created good jobs in CA at the expense of worse jobs outside of CA. Seems like a win for the people of CA.
- Kylekramer 7y ago
  Sounds like a pretty big loss for Rebecca Lawson, person of CA.
toomuchtodo 7y ago
US unemployment is the lowest it’s been in 50 years and wages are starting to rise due to employers desperate for labor. This is the best time for labor policies that cause churn to be established.
- Matticus_Rex 7y ago
  I think it's the least damaging time for those policies to be established, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing to do.
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vic20forever 7y ago
...and those unemployed people will find better jobs with other companies, since all California companies are required to comply with the new law, and the collective amount of work performed by California companies (and thus the collective number of workers required to do this work) is not affected by the new law.
- SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
  Why wouldn't the collective amount of work performed by California companies be affected? It seems very likely that consolidating a lot of contractors into a few employees would reduce the total number of working hours needed.
- Matticus_Rex 7y ago
  The collective amount of work performed by California companies is absolutely affected by the new law, because it's not a constant. The amount of work a company has to do is affected by the cost of performance. If costs go up, a lot of work is no longer affordable to complete, so that work doesn't happen.
- larrywright 7y ago
  Except that there are 49 other states that don’t have meddlesome legislation like this.