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For those of you supporting the government's take on this, and their argument that proper documentation is all it takes for being included in the NRC, how do yo

by pavish 7y ago

For those of you supporting the government's take on this, and their argument that proper documentation is all it takes for being included in the NRC, how do you care to explain that the family of the former president of India 'Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed' was left out of NRC? CAB is just an anti-muslim filter, and it's downright unethical. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/former-president-fakhruddin-ali-ahmed-family-again-left-out-of-nrc-list-1594188-2019-09-01 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/former-president-fakhr... Edit: If CAB was truly meant only to deny illegal immigrants, which is infact a right move from a country trying to support its citizens, why base it on religion? Arguments that say that other religions are persecuted in the neighbouring states, what about Myanmar? The Rohingya persecution has been going on for years and our government has done nothing notable about it. What about Srilanka and the mass genocide of Tamils? Rohingyas and Srilankan Tamils are mostly Hindus. Why not extend the help to them too? Why focus only upon the Muslim majority nations? The issue that is concerning is the fact that the act specifically makes it harder for Muslims to become citizens. The question here is whether the government is actually trying to prevent illegal immigration or trying to cut down Muslim population in particular.

sbmthakur 7y ago
You probably forgot about atheists, LGBTQ, Jehovah's witnesses from Russia and Blacks from the US. When it comes to immigrants, India always had a policy to deal with one problem at a time. It's impossible to cover everyone and every problem with one bill. The Government has chosen to tackle the problem of religious persecution in our three neighboring countries that have Islam as their state religion, which is line with the approach. > Arguments that say that other religions are persecuted in the neighbouring states, what about Myanmar? The Rohingya persecution has been going on for years and our government has done nothing notable about it. Myanmar doesn't have a state religion. Not just Rohingya Muslims, even Hindus are persecuted in Myanmar. And they are not covered in the bill. One more thing, Rohingyas are known for some serious violence. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-evidence-reveals-rohingya-armed-group-massacred-scores-in-rakhine-state/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e... > What about Srilanka and the mass genocide of Tamils? Rohingyas and Srilankan Tamils are mostly Hindus. Why not extend the help to them too? Tamils are victims of linguistic oppression instead of religious one. In the past, India has accepted large number of Sri Lankan Tamils. Heck, they even financed LTTE for a certain period of time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Tamils_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Tamils_in_India > Why focus only upon the Muslim majority nations? Because non-Muslims are being increasingly harassed in those countries and unlike that of refugees from Sri Lanka and Uganda, this problem was never addressed. Edit: Would appreciate counter-points instead of downvotes. This is a sensitive issue. The more hostile we are towards each other, the more hate will increase.
timbuck2 7y ago
Rohingyas are mostly Hindus? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-evidence-reveals-rohingya-armed-group-massacred-scores-in-rakhine-state/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e...
- ninni 7y ago
  2.5% of Rohingya are Hindu. Not that it matters, given your predilections.
enugu 7y ago
To your question of religion based immigration, this ignores crucial background - After the Partition in 1947, there were Hindus and other minorities who remained in Pakistan(including current Bangladesh) and Muslims in India. There was the Nehru-Liaquat pact which curtailed further exchange of population provided the minorities were safeguarded. This agreement was drastically violated, especially in the 1971 war when Pakistan Army deliberately targeted Hindus. This site run by Muslim Bangladeshis documents some details http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/ http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/ This lead to a mass exodus of Bangladeshi Hindus to India. In fact, the Communist Party, advocated for their citizenship status much before Modi came to power. There has been further persecution of Hindus, both in Pakistan and Bangladesh https://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2018/06/05/bangladeshi-professor-there-will-be-no-hindus-in-bangladesh-within-3-decades/ https://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2018/06/05/bangladeshi-profes... Also, regarding Myanmar, note that this act also doesnt give refugee status to Hindus who are also being persecuted in Myanmar. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-evidence-reveals-rohingya-armed-group-massacred-scores-in-rakhine-state/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e...

by pavish 7y ago

sbmthakur 7y ago

You probably forgot about atheists, LGBTQ, Jehovah's witnesses from Russia and Blacks from the US. When it comes to immigrants, India always had a policy to deal with one problem at a time. It's impossible to cover everyone and every problem with one bill. The Government has chosen to tackle the problem of religious persecution in our three neighboring countries that have Islam as their state religion, which is line with the approach. > Arguments that say that other religions are persecuted in the neighbouring states, what about Myanmar? The Rohingya persecution has been going on for years and our government has done nothing notable about it. Myanmar doesn't have a state religion. Not just Rohingya Muslims, even Hindus are persecuted in Myanmar. And they are not covered in the bill. One more thing, Rohingyas are known for some serious violence. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-evidence-reveals-rohingya-armed-group-massacred-scores-in-rakhine-state/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e... > What about Srilanka and the mass genocide of Tamils? Rohingyas and Srilankan Tamils are mostly Hindus. Why not extend the help to them too? Tamils are victims of linguistic oppression instead of religious one. In the past, India has accepted large number of Sri Lankan Tamils. Heck, they even financed LTTE for a certain period of time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Tamils_in_India https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Tamils_in_India > Why focus only upon the Muslim majority nations? Because non-Muslims are being increasingly harassed in those countries and unlike that of refugees from Sri Lanka and Uganda, this problem was never addressed. Edit: Would appreciate counter-points instead of downvotes. This is a sensitive issue. The more hostile we are towards each other, the more hate will increase.

timbuck2 7y ago

Rohingyas are mostly Hindus? https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-evidence-reveals-rohingya-armed-group-massacred-scores-in-rakhine-state/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e...

ninni 7y ago
2.5% of Rohingya are Hindu. Not that it matters, given your predilections.

enugu 7y ago

To your question of religion based immigration, this ignores crucial background - After the Partition in 1947, there were Hindus and other minorities who remained in Pakistan(including current Bangladesh) and Muslims in India. There was the Nehru-Liaquat pact which curtailed further exchange of population provided the minorities were safeguarded. This agreement was drastically violated, especially in the 1971 war when Pakistan Army deliberately targeted Hindus. This site run by Muslim Bangladeshis documents some details http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/ http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/ This lead to a mass exodus of Bangladeshi Hindus to India. In fact, the Communist Party, advocated for their citizenship status much before Modi came to power. There has been further persecution of Hindus, both in Pakistan and Bangladesh https://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2018/06/05/bangladeshi-professor-there-will-be-no-hindus-in-bangladesh-within-3-decades/ https://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2018/06/05/bangladeshi-profes... Also, regarding Myanmar, note that this act also doesnt give refugee status to Hindus who are also being persecuted in Myanmar. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-evidence-reveals-rohingya-armed-group-massacred-scores-in-rakhine-state/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/05/myanmar-new-e...