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A burger place is in the top-10? This list is suspicious.

• kerng 7y ago
  Why? In and Out Burger has been in the top ten list for many years. Also, their burgers are very good too.
• vernie 7y ago
  Why, because you look down on that type of work?
  • forgotmylogin2 7y ago
    Because it pays ~$30k/year and Google/Facebook pay ~$200k/year.
    • lame-robot-hoax 7y ago
      Because if they factored salary into their metrics that highly the only thing would matter is pay. This list is about the best places to work in the world in 2020. Not best tech place to work. Or best place to work if you have a degree. In N Out pays very well for a fast food position. Compared to comparable jobs at other fast food companies, it’s easily the best one to work at.
      • chrisseaton 7y ago
        You said we shouldn't factor in pay, then the only thing you say is good about In and Out is that they pay well.
        • nilkn 7y ago
          He/she said they pay well for a fast food place, which isn't the same statement. For a company C, define S(C) to be the set of companies where the "average" employee at C could conceivably get a job without significant extra training. Under this survey, a company C is ranked highly if it is considered great within the group S(C) of companies. Said differently, a company C is ranked highly if employees working at other companies within S(C) tend to want to work at C specifically. While we may not be telling our kids to strive to work at a burger place when they're adults, the reality is there are millions of people out there who aren't going to be working at Google for various reasons but they still deserve good jobs that pay well and treat them with respect. It could very well be the case that In-N-Out stands out as a great place within S(In-N-Out) more than Google does within S(Google). Perhaps the point of contention then is whether lists like this should be aspirational or empirical. You could easily make an aspirational list by reducing it down to raw absolute pay. I'm not sure how useful that really is. This list is interesting (to me, at least) because these are places where people are actually really happy, given what their realistic options are.
          • OrgNet 7y ago
            > While we may not be telling our kids to strive to work at a burger place when they're adults, the reality is there are millions of people out there who aren't going to be working at Google for various reasons but they still deserve good jobs that pay well and treat them with respect. It could very well be the case that In-N-Out stands out as a great place within S(In-N-Out) more than Google does within S(Google). so the reason they are on the list is because they employ more people?
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            • nilkn 7y ago
              I don't think so. In-N-Out, for example, is one of the smaller burger chains. Google has more employees than In-N-Out but didn't make the list.
    • ethanbond 7y ago
      Ah yes. Same reason why Google and Facebook are actually terrible places to work. They only pay ~$200k/year whereas JPM can pay millions! What a simplistic view of the world.
      • ericd 7y ago
        I don't think that's fair. The marginal utility between $200k/yr and millions isn't that high, but it's ridiculously high between $30k/yr and $200k/yr. Put another way, you can comfortably afford to raise a family in CA on one of those salaries, and even put some money away to retire eventually, it's much, much harder to do that with the other.
    • lozaning 7y ago
      A GM at an In-N-Out can easily make over $160K a year.
      • OrgNet 7y ago
        How many GMs do they have? can a company be on the top 10 if they only employ 100 employees in the good position?
        • lozaning 7y ago
          They do an estimated half billion in revenue every year, I'd wager there are more than 100 'good' positions within the privately owned company known to promote exclusively from within.
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  • OrgNet 7y ago
    the best thing about restaurant work is that you are so busy that time flies by
    • chrisseaton 7y ago
      If you want time to fly away then you can't be enjoying it that much.
      • OrgNet 7y ago
        sounds about right
• ggggtez 7y ago
  It just goes to show. They are comparing Apples to Burgers. There is really no point in paying attention to nonsense like this.