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Enough with the fear mongering headlines already. Yes, IANA allocated the last 5 /8's to the regional registries. IPv4 is not going anywhere anytime soon.
by kbyers 16y ago
Enough with the fear mongering headlines already. Yes, IANA allocated the last 5 /8's to the regional registries. IPv4 is not going anywhere anytime soon.
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- taylorbuley 16y agoPeople have been beating the same "IPv4's time is running out" drum since the late 90's apparently
- jedsmith 16y agoIt isn't running out. It is out. I edited out over and replaced it with depleted to satisfy the concern about the headline, but I didn't even like doing that. The cavalier attitude that "nothing is really wrong, keep doing what we're doing" has been an extensive contributor to the problematic situation we're in right now. People have been beating the drum, as you say, because this day was foreseen more than a decade ago. IPv6 has been in use for far longer than a decade. It was anticipated that we'd be most of the way through the transition by now, but we're not, partially due to "nothing's wrong" attitudes. Edit: By it in the first sentence, I meant IPv4's time (and was responding to the parent's usage of time running out). I don't mean IPv4 addresses have been exhausted, as I'm quite aware they're not. However, IPv4 has reached the end of its usefulness, is the underlying root of my meaning.
- ebiester 16y agoSo, why hasn't IBM, GE, MIT, and other legacies been offered a little cash to move back to a handful of class Bs? I mean, Stanford did it...
- jedsmith 16y agoBecause they realize the monetary value of their claim.
- axod 16y ago> "It isn't running out. It is out." I think that's an unfair assessment. When every ipv4 address is actually used, it'll have run out. We're a long long way away from that scenario though. Vast ranges are "allocated" but "unused".
- jedsmith 16y agoI meant that its time is out, not the addresses themselves.
- michaelbuckbee 16y agoThat's actually something I've been having a hard time finding: What percentage of IPv4 addresses are currently in use.
- axod 16y agoProbably wouldn't take too long to check what % are pingable, which would give you a lower bound.
- jefe78 16y agoI'm willing to bet it would ;)
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- axod 16y agoBy my calculations, you'd only need to spin up 50 or so amazon instances, and they could cover the entire IP space in a day doing 1k pings/second each. That's pretty doable.
- jefe78 16y agoThats still not an insignificant amount of time/effort. I'd love to see someone do this though!
- kbyers 16y agoIPv4 addresses are not "out". There are a finite number of IPv4 addresses just as there is a finite amount of land on earth. We are not "out" of land are we? The regional registries haven't even finished allocating the addresses (let alone the low utilization rate of allocated addresses). If the need of migrating to IPv6 is so great and it so valuable to do so, why the need for artificial pronouncements? Yes, IPv6 is about 13-years old (from draft RFC approval in 1998). I view this as a more of a failure of IPv6, however.
- jedsmith 16y agoAgain, I meant that IPv4's time is out. I have edited my comment to clarify this.
- derleth 16y agoPeople have been beating the same "gas is running out" drum since we left Tulsa apparently, and that was three hours ago. Hey... why aren't we moving anymore?