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Is global menu possible on Elementary yet? Searches only turn up old links for the now-dead unity style, but nothing based on libdbusmenu. Still seems to me th

Is global menu possible on Elementary yet? Searches only turn up old links for the now-dead unity style, but nothing based on libdbusmenu. Still seems to me that Plasma with libdbusmenu-qt5 is the closest interface paradigm to MacOS for people trying to swap (not that there aren’t other problems), but glib and gtk versions exist so someone out there must be working on it?

joshklein 7y ago
Replying to myself with more info: This is proving exceptionally hard to search the web for, so apologies if this is out of date, but it seems the answer was “no, and it never will be, so stop asking” as of 2018: https://twitter.com/danielfore/status/991836014070022144 https://twitter.com/danielfore/status/991836014070022144 Was this from before Elementary was positioning as the MacOS replacement? I can’t be the only one who thinks the global menu is one of the MacOS interface’s killer features. I understand why it’s been hard under the X paradigm, but those crazy dbus people are pushing entire application interfaces through IPC now.
- asjw 7y ago
  Mac OS global menu is okish only on Mac
- kabacha 7y ago
  Wow, that guy seems to be completely out of touch with desktop UI and UX. His main source of arguments is that iOS and Android doesn't do X, so Elementary shouldn't either - a what now? Is he really comparing a touchbased small screen device OS that is primarily used for casual applications to keyboard/mouse desktop that is often used in a complex professional environments? That's one way to kill any credibility you had I guess.
  - joshklein 7y ago
    I agree on the substance of your comment re: interfaces, but let’s not put too much stock in a random tweet. He might not mean any of that. In any case, this release of Elementary isn’t any more paired down than the latest GNOME shell. They seem to have a relatively sane approach to building GUI toolkit (though “sane” is relative given this particular domain) so I’m curious to see where they take things even if I don’t use it.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
  It is amazing how much GUIs have regressed in the past 2 decades. Even on Linux KDE used to provide the option for global menus.
  - joshklein 7y ago
    It does have global menu. Figuring out what things are called in the new language of plasma and plasmoids takes some reading to figure, but that particular part of the UI is fine on KDE once you configure it to your liking.
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heavyset_go 7y ago
I value a global menu as a quality of life thing, and from what I've seen, this isn't on the roadmap for GNOME 3. There's currently one implementation out there on GitHub and the GNOME Extensions index, but it has dependencies that are either marked for deprecation or are already deprecated. Seems like Plasma or MATE are the only real options if you want a functional global menu.

joshklein 7y ago

Replying to myself with more info: This is proving exceptionally hard to search the web for, so apologies if this is out of date, but it seems the answer was “no, and it never will be, so stop asking” as of 2018: https://twitter.com/danielfore/status/991836014070022144 https://twitter.com/danielfore/status/991836014070022144 Was this from before Elementary was positioning as the MacOS replacement? I can’t be the only one who thinks the global menu is one of the MacOS interface’s killer features. I understand why it’s been hard under the X paradigm, but those crazy dbus people are pushing entire application interfaces through IPC now.

asjw 7y ago
Mac OS global menu is okish only on Mac
kabacha 7y ago
Wow, that guy seems to be completely out of touch with desktop UI and UX. His main source of arguments is that iOS and Android doesn't do X, so Elementary shouldn't either - a what now? Is he really comparing a touchbased small screen device OS that is primarily used for casual applications to keyboard/mouse desktop that is often used in a complex professional environments? That's one way to kill any credibility you had I guess.
- joshklein 7y ago
  I agree on the substance of your comment re: interfaces, but let’s not put too much stock in a random tweet. He might not mean any of that. In any case, this release of Elementary isn’t any more paired down than the latest GNOME shell. They seem to have a relatively sane approach to building GUI toolkit (though “sane” is relative given this particular domain) so I’m curious to see where they take things even if I don’t use it.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
It is amazing how much GUIs have regressed in the past 2 decades. Even on Linux KDE used to provide the option for global menus.
- joshklein 7y ago
  It does have global menu. Figuring out what things are called in the new language of plasma and plasmoids takes some reading to figure, but that particular part of the UI is fine on KDE once you configure it to your liking.

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heavyset_go 7y ago

I value a global menu as a quality of life thing, and from what I've seen, this isn't on the roadmap for GNOME 3. There's currently one implementation out there on GitHub and the GNOME Extensions index, but it has dependencies that are either marked for deprecation or are already deprecated. Seems like Plasma or MATE are the only real options if you want a functional global menu.