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Latin Dictionary’s Journey: A to Zythum in 125 Years and Counting

21 points by BobbyVsTheDevil 7y ago

neonate 7y ago
http://archive.is/0cLvz http://archive.is/0cLvz
hwj 7y ago
> Around half of English words are also derived directly or indirectly from Latin.
AlbertoGP 7y ago
They do offer PDF versions [1] of the parts they already have, A-M, O-P (the article explains that N contains particularly difficult words that will need much more work), but the license for the PDF files seems contradictory to me as they claim CC BY-NC-ND but then forbid sharing the files: > License and limitations of use > This work is offered to you under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs CC BY- NC-ND license (explanation here). In addition, you are not allowed to print or modify (parts of) this file or to upload it to a public website (no file-sharing). [1] https://www.thesaurus.badw.de/en/tll-digital/tll-open-access.html https://www.thesaurus.badw.de/en/tll-digital/tll-open-access...
- tokai 7y ago
  Yeah that doesn't make sense. NC-ND is already a mess to put on top of CC BY. And with their extra limitations it becomes nonsense. I'm so tired of people wanting to appear "open", while still trying to strap their rights down tight.
  - zozbot234 7y ago
    This is an ongoing, large-scale project, so I'm not sure that it comes with any expectations of openness. They're not placing extra limitations on something that could easily be open (which is quite tiresome), they're doing something new.
    - tokai 7y ago
      Who said anything about expectations of openness? They used a CC license, while at the same time adding further restrictions. They could just have claimed full and proper copyright, instead of this impossible misunderstanding that they ended up with.
tomcooks 7y ago
It's sad that in the US Latin is taught with an anglophone accent and spelling (of vowels in particular)
zozbot234 7y ago
They're still using paper slips for their archive of lexicographical data - not an actual database? That was, um, surprising. And maybe it explains why the whole thing is taking so damn long.

neonate 7y ago

http://archive.is/0cLvz http://archive.is/0cLvz

hwj 7y ago

> Around half of English words are also derived directly or indirectly from Latin.

AlbertoGP 7y ago

They do offer PDF versions [1] of the parts they already have, A-M, O-P (the article explains that N contains particularly difficult words that will need much more work), but the license for the PDF files seems contradictory to me as they claim CC BY-NC-ND but then forbid sharing the files: > License and limitations of use > This work is offered to you under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs CC BY- NC-ND license (explanation here). In addition, you are not allowed to print or modify (parts of) this file or to upload it to a public website (no file-sharing). [1] https://www.thesaurus.badw.de/en/tll-digital/tll-open-access.html https://www.thesaurus.badw.de/en/tll-digital/tll-open-access...

tokai 7y ago
Yeah that doesn't make sense. NC-ND is already a mess to put on top of CC BY. And with their extra limitations it becomes nonsense. I'm so tired of people wanting to appear "open", while still trying to strap their rights down tight.
- zozbot234 7y ago
  This is an ongoing, large-scale project, so I'm not sure that it comes with any expectations of openness. They're not placing extra limitations on something that could easily be open (which is quite tiresome), they're doing something new.
  - tokai 7y ago
    Who said anything about expectations of openness? They used a CC license, while at the same time adding further restrictions. They could just have claimed full and proper copyright, instead of this impossible misunderstanding that they ended up with.

tomcooks 7y ago

It's sad that in the US Latin is taught with an anglophone accent and spelling (of vowels in particular)

zozbot234 7y ago

They're still using paper slips for their archive of lexicographical data - not an actual database? That was, um, surprising. And maybe it explains why the whole thing is taking so damn long.