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TikTok went the wrong way about preventing cyber bullying against the disabled. In this situation it would have been better to do nothing at all. If they had ju

TikTok went the wrong way about preventing cyber bullying against the disabled. In this situation it would have been better to do nothing at all. If they had just let disabled individuals get cyber bullied they could have avoided this negative press altogether.

mliker 7y ago
Yes, but then the disabled individuals would have been mentally traumatized. Companies shouldn't avoid doing things just to avoid negative press. They're providing a service for the people.
- Mirioron 7y ago
  I think that is the parent poster's point. They tried to do something that to them seemed like it would help people, but ended up in a scandal instead. This is how apathy spreads.
  - qxnqd 7y ago
    Because it's tiktok. Tiktok is Chinese so whatever they do they will be criticised.
    - slimed 7y ago
      While I'm not surprised that a Chinese company was the first to do this, the criticism has nothing to do with them being Chinese. Show me an American or European social media company that discriminates in this way and I will show you the same level outrage.
  - mliker 7y ago
    No, that's not the parent poster's point. From parent post: > If they had just let disabled individuals get cyber bullied they could have avoided this negative press altogether.
    - asdf333 7y ago
      i think the assumption is that the op was being sarcastic.
- akira2501 7y ago
  > Yes, but then the disabled individuals would have been mentally traumatized. This is absolutely backwards, as it is based upon the presumption that disabled individuals are so fragile that they cannot face any adversity or be "traumatized." That's just reverse-discrimination, and it's just as damaging as outright discrimination. > Companies shouldn't avoid doing things just to avoid negative press. Companies aren't going to arrange themselves along moral lines, we've seen this failure too many times to think it's a possible or even desirable goal. Negative press is a useful tool and is simply reflective of our societies attitudes and morals. I'm perfectly fine with companies using "negative press" as a bellwether for internal policy. > They're providing a service for the people. ...and those people _willingly_ decide if they want to use it or not.
  - TheFiend7 7y ago
    Bingo! You did a great job explaining this reverse-discrimination/preemptive excessive PCness that so many people advocate for yet are just apart of the problem (or close to it) as their corresponding counter-parts on the other end of the spectrum.
  - profunctor 7y ago
    > the presumption that disabled individuals are so fragile No such presumption. Lots of people, especially kids, can become traumatised by bullying. This argument seems like concern trolling to be honest. > and those people _willingly_ decide if they want to use it or not. Children can willingly decide to gamble or buy a beer but we as a society don't let them. And we don't just leave it up to the parents in those situations either.
    - slimed 7y ago
      You realize that you're comparing obese people and adults with Tourette's Syndrome to children? This argument seems like trolling trolling, to be honest.
    - randallsquared 7y ago
      > And we don't just leave it up to the parents in those situations either. ...well, with beer we often do, in the US, at least: https://www.alcohol.org/laws/underage-drinking/ https://www.alcohol.org/laws/underage-drinking/
- kortilla 7y ago
  Disabled individuals don’t necessarily have mental disabilities. Why do they need to be protected from bullying anymore than a typical obese/short/tall/whatever person?

mliker 7y ago

Yes, but then the disabled individuals would have been mentally traumatized. Companies shouldn't avoid doing things just to avoid negative press. They're providing a service for the people.

Mirioron 7y ago
I think that is the parent poster's point. They tried to do something that to them seemed like it would help people, but ended up in a scandal instead. This is how apathy spreads.
- qxnqd 7y ago
  Because it's tiktok. Tiktok is Chinese so whatever they do they will be criticised.
  - slimed 7y ago
    While I'm not surprised that a Chinese company was the first to do this, the criticism has nothing to do with them being Chinese. Show me an American or European social media company that discriminates in this way and I will show you the same level outrage.
- mliker 7y ago
  No, that's not the parent poster's point. From parent post: > If they had just let disabled individuals get cyber bullied they could have avoided this negative press altogether.
  - asdf333 7y ago
    i think the assumption is that the op was being sarcastic.
akira2501 7y ago
> Yes, but then the disabled individuals would have been mentally traumatized. This is absolutely backwards, as it is based upon the presumption that disabled individuals are so fragile that they cannot face any adversity or be "traumatized." That's just reverse-discrimination, and it's just as damaging as outright discrimination. > Companies shouldn't avoid doing things just to avoid negative press. Companies aren't going to arrange themselves along moral lines, we've seen this failure too many times to think it's a possible or even desirable goal. Negative press is a useful tool and is simply reflective of our societies attitudes and morals. I'm perfectly fine with companies using "negative press" as a bellwether for internal policy. > They're providing a service for the people. ...and those people _willingly_ decide if they want to use it or not.
- TheFiend7 7y ago
  Bingo! You did a great job explaining this reverse-discrimination/preemptive excessive PCness that so many people advocate for yet are just apart of the problem (or close to it) as their corresponding counter-parts on the other end of the spectrum.
- profunctor 7y ago
  > the presumption that disabled individuals are so fragile No such presumption. Lots of people, especially kids, can become traumatised by bullying. This argument seems like concern trolling to be honest. > and those people _willingly_ decide if they want to use it or not. Children can willingly decide to gamble or buy a beer but we as a society don't let them. And we don't just leave it up to the parents in those situations either.
  - slimed 7y ago
    You realize that you're comparing obese people and adults with Tourette's Syndrome to children? This argument seems like trolling trolling, to be honest.
  - randallsquared 7y ago
    > And we don't just leave it up to the parents in those situations either. ...well, with beer we often do, in the US, at least: https://www.alcohol.org/laws/underage-drinking/ https://www.alcohol.org/laws/underage-drinking/
kortilla 7y ago
Disabled individuals don’t necessarily have mental disabilities. Why do they need to be protected from bullying anymore than a typical obese/short/tall/whatever person?