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Jony Ive Has Left Apple

56 points by tdurden 7y ago

kitotik 7y ago
End of an era. Apple now having design under the COO seems like a terrible idea.
- celticninja 7y ago
  It's going to be outsourced to Ive's company anyway.
  - fredgrott 7y ago
    Apple tired that before, remember who designed the original iMac?
- nickthemagicman 7y ago
  Having dated a graphic designer who ran her own firm...biz people don't seem to respect design. It's an slight hassle afterthought to many biz people. It's a cost center that they don't really understand...but don't realize they don't understand... because they think it's easy. Steve Jobs was actually different. He put design first and foremost and did great things. Hopefully the COO recognizes he's out of his element and doesn't try to half-ass design going forward.
  - jariel 7y ago
    This is a great point. 'Design' is part of making the product, just like anything part of Engineering. Also - it needs to be integrated into the rest of product, so I seriously doubt it can be outsourced effectively. iPhones are packed tighter than sardines inside, every little aspect of physicality matters, and there is always tradeoffs. You can't 'horse trade' without a voice at the table. I worked at a major handset manufacturer that never 'got it' and now they don't exist :)
  - friendlybus 7y ago
    It could be like the Pininfirina to Ferrari/Fiat/Peugeot setup.
  - whywhywhywhy 7y ago
    Steve Jobs on companies run by product people vs sales and marketing [0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AxZofbMGpM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AxZofbMGpM
    - j-pb 7y ago
      Apple is worse now, Cook is not even a marketing guy. He's financials. He will milk apple customers for every last drop without caring for products and innovation anymore, and will do so until Apple and it's brand have been so hollowed out that they will collapse under their own weight. And nobody will stop him because shareholders only care about short term returns.
    - nickthemagicman 7y ago
      Hey thanks that's great link! Do you know if that full interview is anywhere?
nine_k 7y ago
Will we see fewer fashion-accessory features, and more daily workhorse features?
caseyf7 7y ago
So happy he can apply his talent elsewhere. Given the minuscule improvements we should expect in phones and laptops in the near future, Apple probably isn’t the best place for him.
Fnoord 7y ago
Not really news, is it? Ive leaving and starting consulting (possibly including for Apple) was known for a while.
jmsflknr 7y ago
So I guess my submission was not really old or dupe. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21660292 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21660292
thunkshift1 7y ago
So?

56 points by tdurden 7y ago

kitotik 7y ago

End of an era. Apple now having design under the COO seems like a terrible idea.

celticninja 7y ago
It's going to be outsourced to Ive's company anyway.
- fredgrott 7y ago
  Apple tired that before, remember who designed the original iMac?
nickthemagicman 7y ago
Having dated a graphic designer who ran her own firm...biz people don't seem to respect design. It's an slight hassle afterthought to many biz people. It's a cost center that they don't really understand...but don't realize they don't understand... because they think it's easy. Steve Jobs was actually different. He put design first and foremost and did great things. Hopefully the COO recognizes he's out of his element and doesn't try to half-ass design going forward.
- jariel 7y ago
  This is a great point. 'Design' is part of making the product, just like anything part of Engineering. Also - it needs to be integrated into the rest of product, so I seriously doubt it can be outsourced effectively. iPhones are packed tighter than sardines inside, every little aspect of physicality matters, and there is always tradeoffs. You can't 'horse trade' without a voice at the table. I worked at a major handset manufacturer that never 'got it' and now they don't exist :)
- friendlybus 7y ago
  It could be like the Pininfirina to Ferrari/Fiat/Peugeot setup.
- whywhywhywhy 7y ago
  Steve Jobs on companies run by product people vs sales and marketing [0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AxZofbMGpM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AxZofbMGpM
  - j-pb 7y ago
    Apple is worse now, Cook is not even a marketing guy. He's financials. He will milk apple customers for every last drop without caring for products and innovation anymore, and will do so until Apple and it's brand have been so hollowed out that they will collapse under their own weight. And nobody will stop him because shareholders only care about short term returns.
  - nickthemagicman 7y ago
    Hey thanks that's great link! Do you know if that full interview is anywhere?

nine_k 7y ago

Will we see fewer fashion-accessory features, and more daily workhorse features?

caseyf7 7y ago

So happy he can apply his talent elsewhere. Given the minuscule improvements we should expect in phones and laptops in the near future, Apple probably isn’t the best place for him.

Fnoord 7y ago

Not really news, is it? Ive leaving and starting consulting (possibly including for Apple) was known for a while.

jmsflknr 7y ago

So I guess my submission was not really old or dupe. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21660292 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21660292

thunkshift1 7y ago

So?