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>> “We always wanted the hero of the ad to eat the pizza,” Helbing said. >> Gorbachev held firm. “‘As the ex-leader, I just would not,’” Helbing recalled Gorba

>> “We always wanted the hero of the ad to eat the pizza,” Helbing said. >> Gorbachev held firm. “‘As the ex-leader, I just would not,’” Helbing recalled Gorbachev saying. It is not clear why he wouldn't do that.

xwdv 7y ago
Many world leaders or people of prominence are wary of eating anything on camera. The President of the United States is not allowed to be filmed eating on camera unless approved by the secret service.
- lawlorino 7y ago
  Not trying to sound pernickity here but do you have a source on that? I find minor details like that really interesting and I couldn't think of good reasons why except PR, and if that was the only reason why would it be up to the secret service to decide? I tried Googling but couldn't find much.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    There's no way the Secret Service could enforce that rule. Freedom of the press applies - the best they can do is avoid having the President eat in public. Politicians looking goofy eating (eating pizza/hot dogs with a fork is a pretty common gaffe) has a long history. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/19/photo-politicians-fear-of-them-eating-cameron-miliband-bacon-sandwich-hot-dog https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/19/photo-p...
    - larnmar 7y ago
      The funny part is that Obama smoked through most of his presidency and no photos ever emerged.
      - wardbradt 7y ago
        How do you know this?
        wutbrodo 7y ago
        I saw it quite a few times in reputable publications. I'm the last person to have a high opinion of the press's honesty, but multiple orgs lying about it would be a bizarre and easily-defeated conspiracy.
      - wutbrodo 7y ago
        The administration claimed a couple times that he quit for long stretches.
  - knzhou 7y ago
    There's a scandal every month about some politician eating wrong -- whether it's them being too messy, or not messy enough. It's especially bad in UK politics.
    - markdown 7y ago
      HE POURED THE MILK FIRST‽ OUTRAGEOUS, EGREGIOUS, PREPOSTEROUS!
- bigred100 7y ago
  There was a big furor over Donald Trump eating pizza the wrong way (by New York standards) quite some time ago.
  - tenpies 7y ago
    There was furor over Trump wanting two scoops of ice cream instead of one[1]. I believe that in a post-Trump world, the American President will just never eat as far as the public knows. All meal-related meetings will be held behind closed doors, with not even a peep as to what was on the menu. All President-related meals will henceforth be national secrets revealed only to those with top security clearances. The White House kitchen will be treated with a similar secrecy as Area 51. --- [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixEahmx0Btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixEahmx0Btw
    - chongli 7y ago
      President will just never eat as far as the public knows If the president never eats in public, how do we know they’re not a robot? This was a major plot point in the Asimov short story Evidence. The character went to extreme lengths to avoid being seen eating (and turned out to be a robot in the end).
      - Mountain_Skies 7y ago
        Baby Alive has been able to eat since the early 1970s. Pretty sure robopresident could find a place to internally store consumed food until returning to its maintenance pod.
        yorwba 7y ago
        Robots have been able to fake eating since de Vaucanson's mechanical duck in 1739: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digesting_Duck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digesting_Duck
        wutbrodo 7y ago
        In the story above, the candidate is capable of eating (and does so in front of one of the roboticist main characters). She points out, as you do, that it would be trivial to store food internally for later disposal
- bullshitpr 7y ago
  That's bullshit. Are you telling that the leader of the country, elected by vote, the commander in chief, takes orders from a bodyguard? Think about this for a minute. Of course, he can listen and consider their advice, but after he can just tell secret service to fuck off, and they will.
  - bsamuels 7y ago
    nobodys telling the president to do anything, they tell the press to not film it. not sure why that kind of misunderstanding is worth making a throwaway account and getting upset over
    - codingdave 7y ago
      I'm not sure what the flagged comment was, but this response implies that the president should be free to do anything, while we limit the press. That sounds backwards.
      - boomboomsubban 7y ago
        Giving the president a tiny bit of privacy during meal time is not limiting a free press.
- teh_klev 7y ago
  > Many world leaders or people of prominence are wary of eating anything on camera. Indeed. No-one will ever let Ed Miliband, the then leader of the UK Labour Party in 2014, forget his unfortunate bacon sandwich moment. Hell, the event even has its own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_pho...
  - c3534l 7y ago
    We're truly doomed as a species if the image of someone eating a sandwich is the death of a politician's career and not all horrible shit politicians actually do.
NikolaeVarius 7y ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3198837/There-really-pork-politics-pictured-eating-biggest-risk-White-House-hopeful-hasn-t-stopped-Iowa-State-Fair.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3198837/There-reall...

xwdv 7y ago

Many world leaders or people of prominence are wary of eating anything on camera. The President of the United States is not allowed to be filmed eating on camera unless approved by the secret service.

lawlorino 7y ago
Not trying to sound pernickity here but do you have a source on that? I find minor details like that really interesting and I couldn't think of good reasons why except PR, and if that was the only reason why would it be up to the secret service to decide? I tried Googling but couldn't find much.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  There's no way the Secret Service could enforce that rule. Freedom of the press applies - the best they can do is avoid having the President eat in public. Politicians looking goofy eating (eating pizza/hot dogs with a fork is a pretty common gaffe) has a long history. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/19/photo-politicians-fear-of-them-eating-cameron-miliband-bacon-sandwich-hot-dog https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/19/photo-p...
  - larnmar 7y ago
    The funny part is that Obama smoked through most of his presidency and no photos ever emerged.
    - wardbradt 7y ago
      How do you know this?
      - wutbrodo 7y ago
        I saw it quite a few times in reputable publications. I'm the last person to have a high opinion of the press's honesty, but multiple orgs lying about it would be a bizarre and easily-defeated conspiracy.
    - wutbrodo 7y ago
      The administration claimed a couple times that he quit for long stretches.
- knzhou 7y ago
  There's a scandal every month about some politician eating wrong -- whether it's them being too messy, or not messy enough. It's especially bad in UK politics.
  - markdown 7y ago
    HE POURED THE MILK FIRST‽ OUTRAGEOUS, EGREGIOUS, PREPOSTEROUS!
bigred100 7y ago
There was a big furor over Donald Trump eating pizza the wrong way (by New York standards) quite some time ago.
- tenpies 7y ago
  There was furor over Trump wanting two scoops of ice cream instead of one[1]. I believe that in a post-Trump world, the American President will just never eat as far as the public knows. All meal-related meetings will be held behind closed doors, with not even a peep as to what was on the menu. All President-related meals will henceforth be national secrets revealed only to those with top security clearances. The White House kitchen will be treated with a similar secrecy as Area 51. --- [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixEahmx0Btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixEahmx0Btw
  - chongli 7y ago
    President will just never eat as far as the public knows If the president never eats in public, how do we know they’re not a robot? This was a major plot point in the Asimov short story Evidence. The character went to extreme lengths to avoid being seen eating (and turned out to be a robot in the end).
    - Mountain_Skies 7y ago
      Baby Alive has been able to eat since the early 1970s. Pretty sure robopresident could find a place to internally store consumed food until returning to its maintenance pod.
      - yorwba 7y ago
        Robots have been able to fake eating since de Vaucanson's mechanical duck in 1739: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digesting_Duck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digesting_Duck
      - wutbrodo 7y ago
        In the story above, the candidate is capable of eating (and does so in front of one of the roboticist main characters). She points out, as you do, that it would be trivial to store food internally for later disposal
bullshitpr 7y ago
That's bullshit. Are you telling that the leader of the country, elected by vote, the commander in chief, takes orders from a bodyguard? Think about this for a minute. Of course, he can listen and consider their advice, but after he can just tell secret service to fuck off, and they will.
- bsamuels 7y ago
  nobodys telling the president to do anything, they tell the press to not film it. not sure why that kind of misunderstanding is worth making a throwaway account and getting upset over
  - codingdave 7y ago
    I'm not sure what the flagged comment was, but this response implies that the president should be free to do anything, while we limit the press. That sounds backwards.
    - boomboomsubban 7y ago
      Giving the president a tiny bit of privacy during meal time is not limiting a free press.
teh_klev 7y ago
> Many world leaders or people of prominence are wary of eating anything on camera. Indeed. No-one will ever let Ed Miliband, the then leader of the UK Labour Party in 2014, forget his unfortunate bacon sandwich moment. Hell, the event even has its own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_pho...
- c3534l 7y ago
  We're truly doomed as a species if the image of someone eating a sandwich is the death of a politician's career and not all horrible shit politicians actually do.

NikolaeVarius 7y ago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3198837/There-really-pork-politics-pictured-eating-biggest-risk-White-House-hopeful-hasn-t-stopped-Iowa-State-Fair.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3198837/There-reall...