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Sex is taboo? Where is that? Maybe in sharia oriented societies - but in the US with it's prudish attitude they don't differ that much in this regard.

by Shihan 7y ago

fastball 7y ago
How many places is it legal to have sex in public?
- grenoire 7y ago
  I don't really want random people fucking in the streets, that's not even about the taboo aspect of it. Get a room.
  - etatoby 7y ago
    That's exactly the taboo aspect of it.
  - vincnetas 7y ago
    Replace word “fucking” with any other activity and you’ll see how taboo it is. Hint, try “laughing”, “hugging”, “playing”
    - RealityVoid 7y ago
      A softer facet is kissing in public, or PDA's how they're called by some. I find it ridiculous some people are offended by this, but maybe I am extremely shameless.
- chmod775 7y ago
  In a few European countries for instance, including Germany. Though, taking Germany as an example, you might run into legal troubles if you make a nuisance of yourselves knowingly or on purpose. [1] Americans are considered pretty prude, uptight, and christian fundamentalist when it comes sexuality here, while US citizens can have quite the culture shock and think us crazy. The laws surrounding sexuality are really just the tip of the iceberg. [1]: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__183a.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__183a.html
throw_m239339 7y ago
> Sex is taboo? Where is that? Maybe in sharia oriented societies - but in the US with it's prudish attitude they don't differ that much in this regard. Wasn't sex outside marriage a felony in Utah until recently? Pretty sure the sharia wasn't applied there… My point is that the American puritan roots are still alive and kicking, both in conservative circles obviously but also liberal circles with people getting "distressed" at the sight of any kind of eroticism in art or entertainment.
- rndgermandude 7y ago
  Until struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003, Sodomy laws existed in some US states. These targeted not just same sex couples, but often all couples and prohibited acts such as oral or anal sex even for married couples. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_Stat...
- Shihan 7y ago
  Yes, that's what I said?
swarnie_ 7y ago
Definitely in the US, Europe not so much. How long did the drama over a nipple being shown during the egg ball final last?
- larnmar 7y ago
  Drama only lasts a long time when there’s people on both sides arguing about it though. This is what these “grand unified theories of American prudery” miss — the US isn’t a uniformly prude nation; it’s just a very large and diverse one. It contains people who are very prude as well as people who are the opposite — it contains people who write in to the FTC to complain about not-quite-nipples on TV, but it also contains the sort of people who thought that showing a 40 year old woman’s saggy boob during an afternoon football game was a good idea in the first place. It contains people who complain about porn, but it also contains most of the global porn industry.
Broken_Hippo 7y ago
In some areas of the US, we still teach kids (especially girls) that they are damaged if they have sex outside of marriage. That is instead of teaching about safe sex practices and things like that. We don't always take rape seriously - for either sex. Don't show a nipple on TV, especially not on "public" broadcast or during certain times of day. Certainly never, ever show a penis on these channels - that's especially vulgar. These are all clues that sex is taboo. We can't even have honest conversations about it and it causes a bit of obsession with it devoid of healthy attitudes.
- Shihan 7y ago
  From where does it come from? I guess also from so called religious values or at least from what some of the Churches make out of it. I believe the polytheistic are much open minded regarding sexuality than the monotheistic ones - or maybe as Islam sprung from Christianity and Judaism and Christianity from Judaism it is only this specific strain that has a problem with sexuality.
  - rndgermandude 7y ago
    The virginity thing comes from a time where women and girls were considered property, first of the family then of a husband, and potential husbands usually want(ed) a pristine product not a "used" one. > believe the polytheistic are much open minded regarding sexuality than the monotheistic ones Not really, it depends on whatever religion. Hinduism, 3rd largest of all religions and largest polytheistic religion, makes a big deal about premarital virginity of women, at least in all the major branches/sects of it.
    - Shihan 7y ago
      So maybe it is probably the enshrinement of "I want to make sure that the woman only makes kids with the copies of my genes" into religious doctrine.
      - etatoby 7y ago

Sex is taboo? Where is that? Maybe in sharia oriented societies - but in the US with it's prudish attitude they don't differ that much in this regard.

by Shihan 7y ago

Sex is taboo? Where is that? Maybe in sharia oriented societies - but in the US with it's prudish attitude they don't differ that much in this regard.

fastball 7y ago

How many places is it legal to have sex in public?

grenoire 7y ago
I don't really want random people fucking in the streets, that's not even about the taboo aspect of it. Get a room.
- etatoby 7y ago
  That's exactly the taboo aspect of it.
- vincnetas 7y ago
  Replace word “fucking” with any other activity and you’ll see how taboo it is. Hint, try “laughing”, “hugging”, “playing”
  - RealityVoid 7y ago
    A softer facet is kissing in public, or PDA's how they're called by some. I find it ridiculous some people are offended by this, but maybe I am extremely shameless.
chmod775 7y ago
In a few European countries for instance, including Germany. Though, taking Germany as an example, you might run into legal troubles if you make a nuisance of yourselves knowingly or on purpose. [1] Americans are considered pretty prude, uptight, and christian fundamentalist when it comes sexuality here, while US citizens can have quite the culture shock and think us crazy. The laws surrounding sexuality are really just the tip of the iceberg. [1]: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__183a.html https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__183a.html

throw_m239339 7y ago

> Sex is taboo? Where is that? Maybe in sharia oriented societies - but in the US with it's prudish attitude they don't differ that much in this regard. Wasn't sex outside marriage a felony in Utah until recently? Pretty sure the sharia wasn't applied there… My point is that the American puritan roots are still alive and kicking, both in conservative circles obviously but also liberal circles with people getting "distressed" at the sight of any kind of eroticism in art or entertainment.

rndgermandude 7y ago
Until struck down by the Supreme Court in 2003, Sodomy laws existed in some US states. These targeted not just same sex couples, but often all couples and prohibited acts such as oral or anal sex even for married couples. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_Stat...
Shihan 7y ago
Yes, that's what I said?

swarnie_ 7y ago

Definitely in the US, Europe not so much. How long did the drama over a nipple being shown during the egg ball final last?

larnmar 7y ago
Drama only lasts a long time when there’s people on both sides arguing about it though. This is what these “grand unified theories of American prudery” miss — the US isn’t a uniformly prude nation; it’s just a very large and diverse one. It contains people who are very prude as well as people who are the opposite — it contains people who write in to the FTC to complain about not-quite-nipples on TV, but it also contains the sort of people who thought that showing a 40 year old woman’s saggy boob during an afternoon football game was a good idea in the first place. It contains people who complain about porn, but it also contains most of the global porn industry.

Broken_Hippo 7y ago

In some areas of the US, we still teach kids (especially girls) that they are damaged if they have sex outside of marriage. That is instead of teaching about safe sex practices and things like that. We don't always take rape seriously - for either sex. Don't show a nipple on TV, especially not on "public" broadcast or during certain times of day. Certainly never, ever show a penis on these channels - that's especially vulgar. These are all clues that sex is taboo. We can't even have honest conversations about it and it causes a bit of obsession with it devoid of healthy attitudes.

Shihan 7y ago
From where does it come from? I guess also from so called religious values or at least from what some of the Churches make out of it. I believe the polytheistic are much open minded regarding sexuality than the monotheistic ones - or maybe as Islam sprung from Christianity and Judaism and Christianity from Judaism it is only this specific strain that has a problem with sexuality.
- rndgermandude 7y ago
  The virginity thing comes from a time where women and girls were considered property, first of the family then of a husband, and potential husbands usually want(ed) a pristine product not a "used" one. > believe the polytheistic are much open minded regarding sexuality than the monotheistic ones Not really, it depends on whatever religion. Hinduism, 3rd largest of all religions and largest polytheistic religion, makes a big deal about premarital virginity of women, at least in all the major branches/sects of it.
  - Shihan 7y ago
    So maybe it is probably the enshrinement of "I want to make sure that the woman only makes kids with the copies of my genes" into religious doctrine.
    - etatoby 7y ago