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And Apple bought NeXT which is what macOS and iOS are based off of. A purity contest of "from scratch" isn't really relevant. Google clearly put, and continues

And Apple bought NeXT which is what macOS and iOS are based off of. A purity contest of "from scratch" isn't really relevant. Google clearly put, and continues to put, a lot of serious technical work into Chrome and Android which is reflected in their success.

scarface74 7y ago
Chrome isn’t a “success” because of any technical work. It’s a success because Google hocked it on their home page. How is Chrome anymore of technical success than other browsers? As far as Android, it came out in the Oracle trial that it only made about $22 billion in profit during its entire existence and the entire ecosystem is still a mess as far as security and updates compared to Windows - ie where one company controls the operating system and licenses it to other OEMs. Not to mention that the entire Android market is a profit less race to the bottom for all of the manufacturers. All that being said, Google still derives almost all of its profit from ads compared to Apple, Microsoft and Amazon who have had far more success in introducing diversified products. But if Google’s failures can be attributed to a lack of leadership, most of Apple’s current success wasn’t the result of the NeXT acquisition. It was the result of bringing its founder back.
- username90 7y ago
  > How is Chrome anymore of technical success than other browsers? When chrome was new it was extremely innovative with how much space it gave to websites, and also came with orders of magnitude faster javascript. The other browsers then copied Chrome so all of them are now fast and sleek, but back then the difference was huge.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Orders of magnitude faster than JavaScriptCore in 2008?
    - username90 7y ago
      Yes, it depends on what benchmarks you ran though. Example: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-is-insanely-fast-faster-than-firefox-3-0/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-is-insanely-fast...
      - scarface74 7y ago
        I specifically asked about JavaScriptCore - the (open source) JS engine part of Safari.

scarface74 7y ago

Chrome isn’t a “success” because of any technical work. It’s a success because Google hocked it on their home page. How is Chrome anymore of technical success than other browsers? As far as Android, it came out in the Oracle trial that it only made about $22 billion in profit during its entire existence and the entire ecosystem is still a mess as far as security and updates compared to Windows - ie where one company controls the operating system and licenses it to other OEMs. Not to mention that the entire Android market is a profit less race to the bottom for all of the manufacturers. All that being said, Google still derives almost all of its profit from ads compared to Apple, Microsoft and Amazon who have had far more success in introducing diversified products. But if Google’s failures can be attributed to a lack of leadership, most of Apple’s current success wasn’t the result of the NeXT acquisition. It was the result of bringing its founder back.

username90 7y ago
> How is Chrome anymore of technical success than other browsers? When chrome was new it was extremely innovative with how much space it gave to websites, and also came with orders of magnitude faster javascript. The other browsers then copied Chrome so all of them are now fast and sleek, but back then the difference was huge.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Orders of magnitude faster than JavaScriptCore in 2008?
  - username90 7y ago
    Yes, it depends on what benchmarks you ran though. Example: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-is-insanely-fast-faster-than-firefox-3-0/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-is-insanely-fast...
    - scarface74 7y ago
      I specifically asked about JavaScriptCore - the (open source) JS engine part of Safari.