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Really interesting!

kbjjkgvg 7y ago
On the other hand, being forced to Gab/Quillette means these people get far less mainstream exposure. Furthermore, those on the path to radicalization often see the true spirit of the ideology when the leaders move to more extremist-accepting platform and are able to reject the beliefs. When reddit banned /r/fatpeoplehate the problem moved around for a little bit, but it promptly died. Or when the white nationalists were forced to move to Voat, their numbers dwindled.
- kerkeslager 7y ago
  > When reddit banned /r/fatpeoplehate the problem moved around for a little bit, but it promptly died. Or when the white nationalists were forced to move to Voat, their numbers dwindled. I don't buy this. Do you have any actual evidence for this?
  - detaro 7y ago
    They're probably referring to this study: http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw18-chand-hate.pdf http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw18-chand-hate.pdf
    - kerkeslager 7y ago
      That study shows that bigots didn't move from r/fatpeoplehate and r/CoonTown to other subreddits. That study does not show that bigots simply disappeared or became less bigoted. Nothing in that paper indicates that the bigots didn't simply move to other online communities (i.e. Voat), or take their bigoted conversations offline.
thrower123 7y ago
Quillette being a white nationalist publication is either a joke, or the definition has been stretched so far out of shape that it is unrecognizable. They will publish anything well-argued.
- Thorrez 7y ago
  >Quillette being a white nationalist publication is either a joke, or the definition has been stretched so far out of shape that it is unrecognizable. What are you talking about? Is grepthisab or the article saying Quillette is a white nationalist publication?
  - ThrowawayR2 7y ago
    grepthisab edited all of their original comment out of their post.
- KozmoNau7 7y ago
  "Well-argued" meaning "fits their conservative worldview".
  - thrower123 7y ago
    Sure, it has a conservative cast, like the New Yorker has a liberal cast. Although I'd argue that it's more libertarian than conservative most of the time; for instance, I don't think I'd ever see Breitbart publish a defense of polyamory, which Quillette did last week.

Really interesting!

On the other hand, being forced to Gab/Quillette means these people get far less mainstream exposure. Furthermore, those on the path to radicalization often see the true spirit of the ideology when the leaders move to more extremist-accepting platform and are able to reject the beliefs. When reddit banned /r/fatpeoplehate the problem moved around for a little bit, but it promptly died. Or when the white nationalists were forced to move to Voat, their numbers dwindled.

kerkeslager 7y ago
> When reddit banned /r/fatpeoplehate the problem moved around for a little bit, but it promptly died. Or when the white nationalists were forced to move to Voat, their numbers dwindled. I don't buy this. Do you have any actual evidence for this?
- detaro 7y ago
  They're probably referring to this study: http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw18-chand-hate.pdf http://comp.social.gatech.edu/papers/cscw18-chand-hate.pdf
  - kerkeslager 7y ago
    That study shows that bigots didn't move from r/fatpeoplehate and r/CoonTown to other subreddits. That study does not show that bigots simply disappeared or became less bigoted. Nothing in that paper indicates that the bigots didn't simply move to other online communities (i.e. Voat), or take their bigoted conversations offline.

thrower123 7y ago

Quillette being a white nationalist publication is either a joke, or the definition has been stretched so far out of shape that it is unrecognizable. They will publish anything well-argued.

Thorrez 7y ago
>Quillette being a white nationalist publication is either a joke, or the definition has been stretched so far out of shape that it is unrecognizable. What are you talking about? Is grepthisab or the article saying Quillette is a white nationalist publication?
- ThrowawayR2 7y ago
  grepthisab edited all of their original comment out of their post.
KozmoNau7 7y ago
"Well-argued" meaning "fits their conservative worldview".
- thrower123 7y ago
  Sure, it has a conservative cast, like the New Yorker has a liberal cast. Although I'd argue that it's more libertarian than conservative most of the time; for instance, I don't think I'd ever see Breitbart publish a defense of polyamory, which Quillette did last week.