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I guess this will get lost in the noise, but a few years ago Apple relaxed its restrictions on IAP donations and allows developers to offer a "tip jar" where IA

I guess this will get lost in the noise, but a few years ago Apple relaxed its restrictions on IAP donations and allows developers to offer a "tip jar" where IAPs don't unlock any specific features. I've been shipping a free and open source app with a donate button on the App Store since mid-2017 [1]. 1. https://chatsecure.org/blog/sustainable-open-source-starts-with-you/ https://chatsecure.org/blog/sustainable-open-source-starts-w...

wavefunction 7y ago
Does Apple take their customary cut? I am not interested in "donating" to Apple.
- Wowfunhappy 7y ago
  They do.
- diminoten 7y ago
  Ever use a credit card to make a donation anywhere?
  - allworknoplay 7y ago
    Apple's cut is a hell of a lot more than 2.9% + $0.30.
    - diminoten 7y ago
      Never said it wasn't? Just pointing out how silly this stance is.
      - catalogia 7y ago
        Balking at the difference between 30% and 3% is just as silly to you as balking at the difference between 3% and 0%?
        diminoten 7y ago
        Yes, because the balk is at the concept not the amount.
        catalogia 7y ago
        Busting somebody's balls because they're not abstracting away something as significant as 27% seems unreasonable. It shouldn't surprise you that somebody who dislikes giving 30% to apple would be proportionally less concerned about giving 3% to Visa.
        diminoten 7y ago
        It's hardly unreasonable; if their problem is, as they've said, "giving money to Apple", then it's not the amount, but the fact that Apple gets a cut at all. And none of this is surprising, merely inconsistently applied logic. I fully understand what is happening here, clarifying statements will not help.
        catalogia 7y ago
        > then it's not the amount Says you, but obviously that's not how most people approach matters like this. Most people can reasonably be assumed to think that differences in degree, particularly an order of magnitude apart, are very relevant. At best you're being a pedantic pain in the ass, hassling people for not explicitly stating that a difference in degree is being considered, when such considerations should be reasonably assumed even when not explicitly stated.
        diminoten 7y ago
        Says me? No. Says the person I replied to. Their outrage wasn't sparked by the size of the payment, but that payment went to Apple at all. Nothing is reasonable about what you're writing, not one thing. At best you're being absurdly pedantic yourself, and hiding behind a throwaway no less. At worst you're trolling. I'm guessing it's the latter, so stop trolling.
hosteur 7y ago
Interesting. As someone who considers making an open source app with a tip jar like that I would be very interested in hearing how much that actually nets you if you want to share that info (Maybe via PM if you prefer)

wavefunction 7y ago

Does Apple take their customary cut? I am not interested in "donating" to Apple.

Wowfunhappy 7y ago
They do.
diminoten 7y ago
Ever use a credit card to make a donation anywhere?
- allworknoplay 7y ago
  Apple's cut is a hell of a lot more than 2.9% + $0.30.
  - diminoten 7y ago
    Never said it wasn't? Just pointing out how silly this stance is.
    - catalogia 7y ago
      Balking at the difference between 30% and 3% is just as silly to you as balking at the difference between 3% and 0%?
      - diminoten 7y ago
        Yes, because the balk is at the concept not the amount.
        catalogia 7y ago
        Busting somebody's balls because they're not abstracting away something as significant as 27% seems unreasonable. It shouldn't surprise you that somebody who dislikes giving 30% to apple would be proportionally less concerned about giving 3% to Visa.
        diminoten 7y ago
        It's hardly unreasonable; if their problem is, as they've said, "giving money to Apple", then it's not the amount, but the fact that Apple gets a cut at all. And none of this is surprising, merely inconsistently applied logic. I fully understand what is happening here, clarifying statements will not help.
        catalogia 7y ago
        > then it's not the amount Says you, but obviously that's not how most people approach matters like this. Most people can reasonably be assumed to think that differences in degree, particularly an order of magnitude apart, are very relevant. At best you're being a pedantic pain in the ass, hassling people for not explicitly stating that a difference in degree is being considered, when such considerations should be reasonably assumed even when not explicitly stated.
        diminoten 7y ago
        Says me? No. Says the person I replied to. Their outrage wasn't sparked by the size of the payment, but that payment went to Apple at all. Nothing is reasonable about what you're writing, not one thing. At best you're being absurdly pedantic yourself, and hiding behind a throwaway no less. At worst you're trolling. I'm guessing it's the latter, so stop trolling.

hosteur 7y ago

Interesting. As someone who considers making an open source app with a tip jar like that I would be very interested in hearing how much that actually nets you if you want to share that info (Maybe via PM if you prefer)