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define hurt. you cant just make up rules. people can say whatever they want. its free speech and its important. and are you seriously ignoring all the people wh

define hurt. you cant just make up rules. people can say whatever they want. its free speech and its important. and are you seriously ignoring all the people who do get fired and jailed? lol wait till it happens to you i find your comment offensive so youre banned for life from the internet. is that what you want? or should my offense be my own problem? ill let you figure out which one is better

mcv 7y ago
> "define hurt." In this context, intentionally denying people their identity. Those bathroom bills that force people to use the wrong bathroom, for example. But anyone who insists on calling a transgender woman "he" or a transgender man "she", even after having been corrected, is intentionally hurting them. It's intentionally being an asshole to someone. > "you cant just make up rules." We can do. Hopefully after some careful deliberation, or you end up with stupid rules like those bathroom bills, but yes, rules get made all the time. That doesn't mean we should legislate everything. We can't and shouldn't. But what should and shouldn't get legislated, or captured in less formal community rules, is an ongoing discussion. > "and are you seriously ignoring all the people who do get fired and jailed? lol wait till it happens to you" I'm not. Lots of people are indeed getting fired and jailed for being LBGTQ, belonging to the wrong minority, etc. But nobody is getting fired or jailed for belonging to a demographic that is 99.9% of the population. > "i find your comment offensive so youre banned for life from the internet." There's a massive difference between accidentally offending someone, and going out of your way to offend. I'm addressing the latter. If we manage to address that, it becomes easier to assume that the offenses we do experience were not intentional.
- anon12345690 7y ago
  nobody is doing "denying" identity. nobody can do that. its a made up problem. nobody cares what bathroom you use as long as its not blatantly wrong. another made up problem. youre making up rules based on feelings without thinking about anything. and youre clearly lying about getting jailed and fired. there are tons of examples of this everywhere because of PC culture. its the tyranny of the minority. heres the other comment showing sources https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21188286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21188286 if youre offended its your problem because YOU take offense to something. theres nothing to address. intent has nothing to do with it.

mcv 7y ago

> "define hurt." In this context, intentionally denying people their identity. Those bathroom bills that force people to use the wrong bathroom, for example. But anyone who insists on calling a transgender woman "he" or a transgender man "she", even after having been corrected, is intentionally hurting them. It's intentionally being an asshole to someone. > "you cant just make up rules." We can do. Hopefully after some careful deliberation, or you end up with stupid rules like those bathroom bills, but yes, rules get made all the time. That doesn't mean we should legislate everything. We can't and shouldn't. But what should and shouldn't get legislated, or captured in less formal community rules, is an ongoing discussion. > "and are you seriously ignoring all the people who do get fired and jailed? lol wait till it happens to you" I'm not. Lots of people are indeed getting fired and jailed for being LBGTQ, belonging to the wrong minority, etc. But nobody is getting fired or jailed for belonging to a demographic that is 99.9% of the population. > "i find your comment offensive so youre banned for life from the internet." There's a massive difference between accidentally offending someone, and going out of your way to offend. I'm addressing the latter. If we manage to address that, it becomes easier to assume that the offenses we do experience were not intentional.

anon12345690 7y ago
nobody is doing "denying" identity. nobody can do that. its a made up problem. nobody cares what bathroom you use as long as its not blatantly wrong. another made up problem. youre making up rules based on feelings without thinking about anything. and youre clearly lying about getting jailed and fired. there are tons of examples of this everywhere because of PC culture. its the tyranny of the minority. heres the other comment showing sources https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21188286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21188286 if youre offended its your problem because YOU take offense to something. theres nothing to address. intent has nothing to do with it.