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I worked for years as a sex worker advocate and in the vast proportion of cases, sex workers all chose various reasons, depending on context, to work in the sex

I worked for years as a sex worker advocate and in the vast proportion of cases, sex workers all chose various reasons, depending on context, to work in the sex industry. Not one of them was ever prostituted.

petra 7y ago
After knowing many sex workers, if a poor friend came to ask you to choose a career - in what context would you recommend her to work as an escort ?
- chantelles 7y ago
  I was a sex worker - a stripper and I highly recommend it to everyone.
philwelch 7y ago
So you’re denying the existence of sex trafficking? To clarify, I personally favor the Swedish model, which outlaws pimping, brothels, and buying sex but does not make it illegal to be a prostitute.
- chantelles 7y ago
  I'm centering the conversation around sex work from the sex worker perspective. Does everyone who works prefer to be independent? Or do many prefer a boss to deal with the day to day? These are basic sex worker educations I received while working in the community (in Toronto).
  - detcader 7y ago
    Can we say that this counts as "the sex worker perspective?" > Rachel Moran, a former prostitute who considers the purchase of sex an act of violence against women... holds a very different opinion on who the victims of prostitution are: "The acceptance of prostitution makes all women potential prostitutes in the public view since there are only two requirements for a woman to work in a brothel: one is that circumstance has placed her so […] and the other is that she has a vagina, and all women are born meeting at least one of these requirements." [1] https://sarahditum.com/2014/02/24/who-do-you-listen-to/ https://sarahditum.com/2014/02/24/who-do-you-listen-to/
    - chantelles 7y ago
      No. That counts as an anti-sex worker perspective. Sex work takes skill, talent, customer service skills and most sex workers derive the bulk of their profit from regular customers who they build relationships with. Also, sex workers are a diverse group who all hold different opinions and experiences of work. Just like some people still like working at Facebook and Google, and some do not.
      - detcader 7y ago
        "Anti-sex worker?" The quote gives no opinion about sex workers, only about the men who buy sex and women collectively as a class. I can't help but be reminded of how people cast Jewish pro-human-rights criticism of the Israeli government as "self-hating Jews..."
  - philwelch 7y ago
    So you’re not actually just advocating for the “sex worker perspective”; you’re also an apologist for pimps.
    - chantelles 7y ago
      Did you know that, according to Canadian sex work laws, living off the avails of prostitution is criminal. So, any sex workers with children face the reality that their children can/will be arrested for the same laws created to protect them from pimps. Also, it is an interesting thought experiment to ask yourself what you know about pimps that is not from white supremacist cultural productions.
      - philwelch 7y ago
        > Also, it is an interesting thought experiment to ask yourself what you know about pimps that is not from white supremacist cultural productions. Ah, there it is.

petra 7y ago

After knowing many sex workers, if a poor friend came to ask you to choose a career - in what context would you recommend her to work as an escort ?

chantelles 7y ago
I was a sex worker - a stripper and I highly recommend it to everyone.

philwelch 7y ago

So you’re denying the existence of sex trafficking? To clarify, I personally favor the Swedish model, which outlaws pimping, brothels, and buying sex but does not make it illegal to be a prostitute.

chantelles 7y ago
I'm centering the conversation around sex work from the sex worker perspective. Does everyone who works prefer to be independent? Or do many prefer a boss to deal with the day to day? These are basic sex worker educations I received while working in the community (in Toronto).
- detcader 7y ago
  Can we say that this counts as "the sex worker perspective?" > Rachel Moran, a former prostitute who considers the purchase of sex an act of violence against women... holds a very different opinion on who the victims of prostitution are: "The acceptance of prostitution makes all women potential prostitutes in the public view since there are only two requirements for a woman to work in a brothel: one is that circumstance has placed her so […] and the other is that she has a vagina, and all women are born meeting at least one of these requirements." [1] https://sarahditum.com/2014/02/24/who-do-you-listen-to/ https://sarahditum.com/2014/02/24/who-do-you-listen-to/
  - chantelles 7y ago
    No. That counts as an anti-sex worker perspective. Sex work takes skill, talent, customer service skills and most sex workers derive the bulk of their profit from regular customers who they build relationships with. Also, sex workers are a diverse group who all hold different opinions and experiences of work. Just like some people still like working at Facebook and Google, and some do not.
    - detcader 7y ago
      "Anti-sex worker?" The quote gives no opinion about sex workers, only about the men who buy sex and women collectively as a class. I can't help but be reminded of how people cast Jewish pro-human-rights criticism of the Israeli government as "self-hating Jews..."
- philwelch 7y ago
  So you’re not actually just advocating for the “sex worker perspective”; you’re also an apologist for pimps.
  - chantelles 7y ago
    Did you know that, according to Canadian sex work laws, living off the avails of prostitution is criminal. So, any sex workers with children face the reality that their children can/will be arrested for the same laws created to protect them from pimps. Also, it is an interesting thought experiment to ask yourself what you know about pimps that is not from white supremacist cultural productions.
    - philwelch 7y ago
      > Also, it is an interesting thought experiment to ask yourself what you know about pimps that is not from white supremacist cultural productions. Ah, there it is.