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> Where is the crime here? The analogy is between a good thing not cancelling out a bad thing. The police are not involved. There isn't a crime. He has been pre

by flatb 7y ago

> Where is the crime here? The analogy is between a good thing not cancelling out a bad thing. The police are not involved. There isn't a crime. He has been pressured for making people very uncomfortable in pursuit of his sexual interests, which is a perfectly good reason to reprieve someone. He has been accused, by several independent parties, of, among other things: -Asking female coworkers to lay down topless on a mattress in his office. -Threatening a colleague to kill himself if he/she didn't go on a date with him. -Posting up signs in his workplace along the lines of "Knight for Justice (Also: Hot Ladies)".

lostjohnny 7y ago
> He has been accused, by several independent parties, of, among other things: Who, exactly? > -Asking female coworkers to lay down topless on a mattress in his office. > -Threatening a colleague to kill himself if he/she didn't go on a date with him. Sooooo, your entire analysis is based on legends circulating since the 90s about a weird man who was even told to be scared by plants? For reference, Thomas Lord, creator of GNU arch (think about Git before Git), who worked for FSF for a long time said One remarkable thing about the FSF at that time, when we worked out of dinky spare offices on the campus of MIT, was the degree of participation by women. In the tiny society that was then the FSF, women were more prominent than I had seen in Silicon Valley, or acadamia prior. p.s.: In the closet-sized "office" Bushnell, McGrath, and I shared for a time we did have some spider plants as part of a running silly joke. They did not actually scare RMS away **OF COURSE** and he usually had helpful criticism and advice of our efforts, from my point of view. > -Posting up signs in his workplace along the lines of "Knight for Justice (Also: Hot Ladies)". Can you tell an inside joke when you see one? p.s. all of us have being young and done some innocent stupid shit, the kinds young people do, like having stupid signs on the door. It doesn't make any of us a criminal.
- flatb 7y ago
  > Sooooo, your entire analysis is based on legends circulating since the 90s No, it isn't. My "entire analysis" is based on accusations made by several independent parties, corroborated by similarly independent witnesses, who have all confirmed what you call "legends of the 90s" to several news sources and publications. What part of that don't you understand? I can provide you with sources, if you want, but I have a feeling you don't really care and you'll automatically discredit them because they don't fit within your narrative of sexism in the software industry being a mostly made-up issue by oversensitive people who want attention and free merit.
  - craigsmansion 7y ago
    > your narrative of sexism in the software industry being a mostly made-up issue Is this what this is all about? Stallman has approximately 0 sway in the "software industry". I'm sure it is a real problem, but Stallman is neither the cause nor the solution to it. I would look into how paying high salaries for unethical work would attract abusive people, and one shouldn't want to work in those industries in the first place.

by flatb 7y ago

lostjohnny 7y ago

> He has been accused, by several independent parties, of, among other things: Who, exactly? > -Asking female coworkers to lay down topless on a mattress in his office. > -Threatening a colleague to kill himself if he/she didn't go on a date with him. Sooooo, your entire analysis is based on legends circulating since the 90s about a weird man who was even told to be scared by plants? For reference, Thomas Lord, creator of GNU arch (think about Git before Git), who worked for FSF for a long time said One remarkable thing about the FSF at that time, when we worked out of dinky spare offices on the campus of MIT, was the degree of participation by women. In the tiny society that was then the FSF, women were more prominent than I had seen in Silicon Valley, or acadamia prior. p.s.: In the closet-sized "office" Bushnell, McGrath, and I shared for a time we did have some spider plants as part of a running silly joke. They did not actually scare RMS away **OF COURSE** and he usually had helpful criticism and advice of our efforts, from my point of view. > -Posting up signs in his workplace along the lines of "Knight for Justice (Also: Hot Ladies)". Can you tell an inside joke when you see one? p.s. all of us have being young and done some innocent stupid shit, the kinds young people do, like having stupid signs on the door. It doesn't make any of us a criminal.

flatb 7y ago
> Sooooo, your entire analysis is based on legends circulating since the 90s No, it isn't. My "entire analysis" is based on accusations made by several independent parties, corroborated by similarly independent witnesses, who have all confirmed what you call "legends of the 90s" to several news sources and publications. What part of that don't you understand? I can provide you with sources, if you want, but I have a feeling you don't really care and you'll automatically discredit them because they don't fit within your narrative of sexism in the software industry being a mostly made-up issue by oversensitive people who want attention and free merit.
- craigsmansion 7y ago
  > your narrative of sexism in the software industry being a mostly made-up issue Is this what this is all about? Stallman has approximately 0 sway in the "software industry". I'm sure it is a real problem, but Stallman is neither the cause nor the solution to it. I would look into how paying high salaries for unethical work would attract abusive people, and one shouldn't want to work in those industries in the first place.